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matthew evans
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posted 22 June 2000 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for matthew evans   Click Here to Email matthew evans     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
UNDER SECTION 4.6.2.1 WE ARE REQUIRED TO CARRY OUT SUPPLIER DEVELOPMENT. I HAVE STARTED A PROGRAM OF 2ND PARTY AUDITS AS SOME OF OUR SUPPLIERS HAVE NO QUALITY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND SOME HAVE ISO9000. ONCE THE AUDIT RESULTS HAVE BEEN WRITTEN OUT WE ASSIGN THE SUPPLIER A SCORE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF NON CONFORMANCES FOUND AND WEATHER THEY ARE MAJOR OR MINOR. WE CAN THEN SEE FROM ONE AUDIT TO THE NEXT IF THE SUPPLIERS QUALITY SYSTEM HAS IMPROVED OR NOT.
IS THIS SUPPLIER DEVELOPMENT.

ANY COMMENTS OR IDEAS WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

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Paul Morrow
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posted 22 June 2000 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Morrow   Click Here to Email Paul Morrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this supplier development? Hmm.What happens if scores don't improve - Strike them off your supplier list? Is your assessor satisfied you've met the criteria? If so stay with it. I'll expect you'll be asked searching questions about what happens over poor scores. You may end up designing some woefully impartial scoring document that looks wonderful but is totally meaningless in the real world(like most rating systems out there).

As a small finishing company whoose suppliers are big chemical concerns 4.6.2.1 could be problamatical (using qs 9000 as the fundemental development tool bit). I did not have the resources (or desire) to start assessing to QS-9000. I took the view that improvements are more likely to be self-sustaining if identified in house and so designed a self-assessment questionnaire based around QS-9000. (Basically just turned the requirements into statements)and asked our suppliers to identify if they 'met' or 'partially met' the statement or if a 'significant gap' existed .The latter two would be an 'opportunity for improvement'which they could document and forward for me to provide evidence of supplier development based around QS-9000.
Our assessor is unpreterbed at the lack of approved supplier lists and second party audits.

Are we developing our suppliers? Probably not. Supplier development requires more than a few lines in a quality system. If I had a customer come here and tell me he was going to develop me because his quality system required it I'd tell him to 'go away'.

[This message has been edited by Paul Morrow (edited 22 June 2000).]

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Jim Biz
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posted 22 June 2000 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Biz   Click Here to Email Jim Biz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've seen this often "disguised" as "Partnerships". Result is customer inputs "this is what we expect of you" Supplier input is "ok if thats what you want".

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