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Daniel
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posted 24 August 2000 05:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Currently, we are going for QS 9000 (under ISO 9002 : 1994 edition). However, we will be required to convert to ISO 9002 : 2000 edition soon. Appreciate if you could advise what will be the changes and will it be major since we are having QS 9000 system.

Thanks alot.

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Manuel Lopez
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posted 24 August 2000 06:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Manuel Lopez   Click Here to Email Manuel Lopez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As far as I am concerned, there will be no QS updating to the 2000 version of ISO 9001. The one that will be updated is ISO 16949.
This is why General motors is encouranging suppliers to go for ISO 16949 instead of QS 9000 in the next surveillance audit they have. For more info check [1] and [2]
I would recommend you to go for ISO 16949, instead of QS9000, it looks that soon or late you will have to do it, specially if you have automotive customers other than the B3.
According to references [3] and [4], the developers of ISO/TS 16949:1999, the International Automotive Task Force (IATF), has announced that the next revision to the standard will be aligned with ISO 9001:2000.
Reference [5] indicates that the IATF has begun work with the ISO TC176 committees to revise the ISO/TS 16949 so as to align it with ISO 9001:2000 ; a resulting product release is expected in 2Q 2001.
According to reference [6], Stephen Walsh, Manager of Q1 Re-engineering for Ford Automotive Operations announced that the IATF is busy trying to align the new international auto standard (ISO/TS 16949:1999) with the Year 2000 revisions of ISO 9000. He expects an updated document that aligns both families of standards by the end of 2001.
According to reference [7], ISO/TS 16949 (together with the appropriate company specific requirements) is believed will replace QS-9000 in the future. As reference [8] also indicates, the release of ISO/TS 16949 aligned with ISO 9001:2000 will replace QS 9000 3rd ed. and the other European Standards.
As stated in reference [1], Ford, GMC and Daimlerchrysler are all strongly recommending that organisations consider upgrading to TS 16949 during surveillance audits.


[1] ćISO/TS 16949 Flash Sheetä, (21st January 2000), (Eagle Group), Available: http://www.eaglegrpusa.com/fl-16949.htm
[2] ćAbout the ISO/TS (technical specification) 16949ä, (2000), (International Automotive Oversight Bureau (IAOB)), Available: http://www.iaob.org/
[3] ćInternational Automotive Oversight Bureauä, (7th February 2000), (IAOB), Available: http://www.iaob.org/, Accessed: 24th July 2000.
[4] FELLENSTEIN, Stephanie J, (Nov/Dec 1999), Harmonising Standards, Quality in Manufacturing.
[5] ćISO/TS 16949ä, (1999), (SRI Quality System Registrar), Available: http://www.sriregistrar.com/services/iso_ts16949.htm, Accessed: 2nd August 2000.
[6] McLYMONT, Rosalind, (May/June 2000), Advice for the automotive supply chain on the new ISO/TS 16949, Business Standards Magazine, Issue: May June 2000 .
[7] ćISO/IEC Guide 25 in the Automotive industryä, (1999, November 15), (US Standards Group on QEDS), Available: http://standardsgroup.asq.org/news/pastdiduk/diduk1115.html, (Accessed: 2000, July 7).
[8] SETUNGE, S.N. (May 2000), The value of QS 9000 3rd ed. to an organisation, Final Year Project, School of Manufacturing and Mechanical Engineering, The University of Birmingham.

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Eugne
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posted 06 September 2000 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eugne   Click Here to Email Eugne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What does your customer require? I should go for QS9000. The reason is very simple. There are no dramatic differences between QS and TS but QS is much cheaper. You only have to pay the B3 and ISO for QS9000. For TS you have to pay three organizations more. It will save you a lot of money. About three years you have to upgrade to TS but for now you can save money.

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Roger Eastin
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posted 06 September 2000 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Roger Eastin   Click Here to Email Roger Eastin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eugene - what do you mean that you have to pay 3 more organizations to register to TS?

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