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posted 13 February 2001 08:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I have been accessed gmsupplypower to get this procedure but right now I'm not quite sure whether it's still available.

I really appreciate if anybody can give me
soft copy of this.

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posted 13 February 2001 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think all the 'old' GM GPs were incorporated into what, last I heasrd, GM was calling GM-9000. Sorry - I don't have a copy.

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posted 13 February 2001 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Al Dyer   Click Here to Email Al Dyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try doing a search on the site (GM) with the topic GM-9000 Reference Documents. I beleieve the site is being updated at the moment so all documents might not be currently available.

If not I can send you a copy next week.

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posted 14 February 2001 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for J.R. Strickland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All of GM's current GP documents are on the gmsupplypower website. Unfortunately, unless you have a password, you will not be able to access them. They used to be on the public area of the site, but have since been moved to the secure area of the site. They are under the "Quality Power - Library - Supplier Quality" area. If you don't have access, there are instructions there on how to get one.

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"If you don't have access, there are instructions there on how to get one."

can anyone get a password?

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posted 10 May 2001 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Al Dyer   Click Here to Email Al Dyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a copy of all of the individual "GP" documents. These were downloaded when the GM site had them publically posted. Send me an e-mail and I will forward you a copy. They are in .doc format.

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posted 10 May 2001 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laura M   Click Here to Email Laura M     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Won't you still need to verify the latest rev to the website?

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posted 10 May 2001 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Al Dyer   Click Here to Email Al Dyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Laura,

Yes, they would need to be part of a verification program (GM requires yearly verification) but you can use the Global Engineering web site or Boise Cascade to verify the latest edition and they are free with no passwords required.

As an aside, I didn't know that anyone is still using GP-10, I usually find people using Guide-25 or the new ISO-17025.

If a company is QS-9000 certified they do not need to follow GP-10.

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posted 10 May 2001 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for J.R. Strickland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I searched the www.gmsupplypower.com website and the GP-10 procedure is still on there with a revision date in 1990. I would agree with Al that it is probably not applicable if you are QS-9000 registered. One place you might check is your RFQ package for the product you are shipping or the GM SOR/SOW to see if it is referenced anywhere.

As for the question "can anyone get a password?" from whs...I would assume you have to be a supplier to GM. Each supplier is required to have a designated security administrator. I went through our security adminstrator to get my password. Again, I believe the website contains instructions on how to get an account and establish a company security administrator if you don't already have one.

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posted 10 May 2001 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
-> it is probably not applicable if you are QS-9000
-> registered.

I thought GM9000 was a requirement in addition to QS-9000 requirements.

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posted 10 May 2001 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Al Dyer   Click Here to Email Al Dyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On page 77 of QS-9000 3rd Edition it notes that the "body" of GM Specific requirements is known as GM 9000.

On page 76 under GP-10 it notes the provision that 3rd party registration to QS-9000 will satisfy GP-10 requirements.

This provision excludes commercial laboratory services.

As usual there is also a note that says some GM divisions may require GP-10. I guess that would be resolved during contract review.

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posted 11 May 2001 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Howard Atkins   Click Here to Email Howard Atkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The latest version of GP10 is FEB 1990
You cannot get it from GM supplier without a password and you have to be a GM supplier to get one.

[This message has been edited by Howard Atkins (edited 11 May 2001).]

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posted 11 May 2001 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On current GM Engineering Standards, under Requirements, it states;

"Testing is to be performed by a laboratory approved to GM GP-10 or by a laboratory accredited or certified to perform audits by an agency recognized by GM to ISO/IEC25 or ISO 17025. Registration to QS9000 is not a substitute for lab accreditation."

Translation?

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posted 11 May 2001 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Al Dyer   Click Here to Email Al Dyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ken K:
On current GM Engineering Standards, under Requirements, it states;

"Testing is to be performed by a laboratory approved to GM GP-10 or by a laboratory accredited or certified to perform audits by an agency recognized by GM to ISO/IEC25 or ISO 17025. Registration to QS9000 is not a substitute for lab accreditation."

Translation?



Ken,

Which GM Engineering Standards, where does the quote come from?

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posted 11 May 2001 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Al Dyer   Click Here to Email Al Dyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted 14 May 2001 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Al, it was included in a "draft" of a spec. we are updating along with the GM Interior Systems Group.
The spec. covers Non Traditional Floor Coverings. We are still waiting for a explanation from GM concerning these requirements.
Apparently, the engineer responsible for this draft has moved onto a different program and is no longer invovled with the Interior Systems Group.
So far, this is the only one I know of that lists these requirements.

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