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Frank45
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posted 22 March 2001 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frank45   Click Here to Email Frank45     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've read the Glossary on "TOOL", but we are having trouble coming to a common ground to the meaning of "Tool" During our last QS9000 audit the auditor said that "tool means work holding fixture, like casting mold, stamping die, etc. It does not mean perishable tooling, like drills, reamers, inserts.

Also the "Full dimensional inspection" requirement has caused some confusion. The auditor stated " It does not mean checking every dimension of the tool. It means checking the dimensions of the product." The auditor stated that no one really cares if the tool is right. It is the product being right that matters."

I'm asking "How have others addressed the 4.2.6.2 requirements?

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Marc Smith
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posted 15 April 2001 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any takers on the definition of tool?

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Al Dyer
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posted 15 April 2001 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Al Dyer   Click Here to Email Al Dyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Frank,

Your definition of tools is what we have used for years and many audits.

As for "full demensional inspection", we consider it an inspection of the product, unless we designed and contracted the manufacture of a special tool that is not available "off the shelf".

In these instances we dimensionally inspect the tool to our design because any errors might affect other tools or workholding in the process.

ASD...

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James
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A tool would be the item which transforms the material into a product. This does not include work holding devices. (i.e. jigs or fixtures) Dies and Molds are tools because they make product. Clamps are not.
As I see it all tooling is perishable, weather it is drills, inserts,

As far as measurements go I agree that it is the part that is to be measured.

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tim banic
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posted 16 April 2001 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tim banic   Click Here to Email tim banic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't define tool without being censored.

Tim

"If it moves, train it...if it doesn't move, calibrate it...if it isn't written down, it never happened!"

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