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KathyS
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posted 08 May 2001 08:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our company does not have subcontractors but does have suppliers. These are not production critical supplies, the closest to it would be packaging. Do we still have to send out self assessment audits? To all the suppliers, or just the ISO certified? I'm pretty new to this and I could really use some help. Thanks

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Al Dyer
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posted 08 May 2001 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Al Dyer   Click Here to Email Al Dyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KathyS:
Our company does not have subcontractors but does have suppliers. These are not production critical supplies, the closest to it would be packaging. Do we still have to send out self assessment audits? To all the suppliers, or just the ISO certified? I'm pretty new to this and I could really use some help. Thanks

Are you aware of the difference between subcontractors and suppliers as outlined in QS-9000 and are you a direct supplier to automotive? Are you Tier I/II/II/IV etc...

How do you differentiate between a subcontractor and a supplier?

Does packaging have anything to do with product quality? If you are QS-9000 Yes.

Try to send G.M a cardboard container when they are expexting a metal container with a barcode attached.

Do you have to send out a self assessment? Not unless you say you will in your documentation.

You need to define how you will develop and improve the companies that send you product.

Possibly define different levels of control and development in your quality documentation based on the affect they have on your processes and final product.

Basic sense and imangination!!!!!!!!!!!

ASD...

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KathyS
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posted 08 May 2001 10:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the back of the QS-9000 book the definition for subcontractor and supplier is the same.
We only service customer supplied product and usually send it back in the packaging the customer has provided, or we purchase the packaging from Customer approved suppliers.
If we document how we approve a supplier and what we expect from them and monitor them, then we do not need to send them the self-assessment audit?
Sorry but for a beginner it's a little confusing.
Thanks again

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KathyS
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posted 09 May 2001 07:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spoke too soon.
Reread the definitions and can cleary see the difference now.
Thanks for all the help.

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Dan Larsen
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posted 09 May 2001 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Larsen   Click Here to Email Dan Larsen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a thought...

If you are providing service to customer supplied product, something of what you purchase is likely to influence the "value added" by your company. These suppliers are the ones you want to consider for approval within your system.

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