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Andrews
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posted 27 July 2001 06:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can we restrict the implementation of clause C9 of sanctioned interpretation dated July 1,2001 to raw material subcontractors, heat treatment subcontractors, plating subcontractors and subcontractors who provide finished product to us ONLY and exclude those subcontractors who supply semi-finished product to us.

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posted 27 July 2001 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tomvehoski   Click Here to Email tomvehoski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By the definition of subcontractor in QS-9000 (Glossary page 133), a subcontractor is defined as "providers of production material, or production or service parts, directly to a supplier to Chrysler, Ford, General Motors or other customers subscribing to this document. Also included are provides of heat treating, painting, plating or other finishing services."


I'm not sure what your semi-finished product is, but my feeling is that since it becomes product it would fall under the requirement. Regardless of the C9 intrepretation, when determining which suppliers need to be qualified, I ask the question - "If the supplier sends in bad product or is late on a delivery, will it affect my finished product or its delivery?". If the answer is yes, the supplier needs to be qualified in some way.

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posted 27 July 2001 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tomvehoski   Click Here to Email tomvehoski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just received an update report from NSF-ISR addressing the new requirements. This is the first "official" registrar stance I have seen. This is from the July 1, 2001 issue - Volume 1, Issue 2.

"QS-9000 registered clients must required 3rd party certification of all labs, material, and service suppliers. If QS certified companies do not have a plan to use certified suppliers in 18 months, it is a minor non-conformance. The plan must include prioritzation, tracking, contingencies if suppliers do not plan to be certified, and timing for suppliers not already certified. This is a minimum requirement and does not preclude subcontractor development beyond 3rd party certification for suppliers of materials and services that affect critical characteristics."

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