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Marc Smith Cheech Wizard Posts: 4119 |
From: [email protected] (ASchlo3307) Newsgroups: misc.industry.quality Subject: Re: Cpk Sigma and PPM Date: 03 Feb 2000 00:41:42 GMT Organization: CompuServe (http://www.compuserve.com/) Brett and Tracey Kimmel wrote: >I'm wondering if anyone can help. I am working on target goals for a Step No. 1 - run a Capability Study on the process. I prefer using a standard Xbar & R chart as a format with five-sample subgroups for 20 subgroups. Reading will be taken on consecutive pieces (100% inspection). The Capability Study will tell you two important things. First, is the process variation random? Assuming it is, is the process capable of meeting the print tolerance (what is the Cp, CpK, CpU --- whatever capability index you choose to use)? Step No. 2 - Assuming your process is varying randomly (read: predictable) and capable of meeting the spec, run a control chart over time. For example, sample five consecutive pieces with a frequency of 1 hour. You can use the control limits from your capability study and plot points as you go. Assuming the operator has adjustment control over the process, he/she can use this "real time" control chart to make adjustment decisions. Personal note: All of the quality buzzwords are nothing more than a way to make consulatnts money. Every single statistically based quality program owes its roots to Deming. Save yourself many thousands of dollars and a lot of frustration (consulants have to make you feel "stupid" for the first few sessions to justify their full fee) by going to the library and reading some of Deming's books. His students wrote some, too and they are worth reading. You'll learn that sigma is a measure of variation about it's mean and that it's value is not a constant; it changes with each process and can be calculated quite simply. You'll learn that your own fear of the unknown is the biggest roadblock to quality improvement --- not lack of knowing a formula to calculate PPM based on some fictitious sigma value. Finally, you'll learn that there is no rocket science involved here (no matter WHAT the thousands or "quality consulants," statistical guru's and black belts would have you believe). --------------snippo------------ Comments, folks? IP: Logged |
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Sam Forum Contributor Posts: 244 |
"Every single Statistically based . . . . to Deming" Try "Shewhart" Deming and Juran were students, as well as many others. "Consultants make you feel stupid" Some consultants may be overbearing/overzealous in there actions, but I have not met one yet that is not committed to there job. IP: Logged |
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Brian Dowsett Forum Contributor Posts: 35 |
Well thanks a bunch to whoever wrote this. As a "blackbelt" I feel quite insulted by these comments. I don't think there is any need to make blanket assumptions about people based on what training course they attended. [This message has been edited by Brian Dowsett (edited 08 February 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Marc Smith Cheech Wizard Posts: 4119 |
Brian: None of this is personal. The beginning post was from: From: [email protected] (ASchlo3307) Newsgroups: misc.industry.quality I re-posted this as an excerpt from a news group. I, being a consultant, are to some degree 'insulted' as well - which is in part why I posted it. Personally I have a fair amount of respect for someone who goes thru the Black Belt program - I would like to have the opportunity some time. But let's not get into that here. Rather have comments such as agree or not, with what and why. IP: Logged |
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BRoyal Forum Contributor Posts: 22 |
Speaking of Six Sigma, found out today that my company is shipping me off to "Master Black Belt" Training. Has anyone been there? What should I expect? There will be four week-long sessions, spaced a month apart. As for consultants, the ones I have worked with, without exception, have been very earnest and bright men and women, who freely shared their knowledge and experience. The problem was the usual lack of upper management involvement. IP: Logged |
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Brian Dowsett Forum Contributor Posts: 35 |
To Mark, Please accept my apologies for attributing the orignal text to your good self, I've edited out any references to "you"! With regard to the next message from BRoyal, I'd say that your company is almost certainly sending you on blackbelt training, based on the course duration (exactly the same as my own). Master blackbelts are those who train blackbelts, I couldn't see you being sent to learn this without doing the blackbelt first. Hope this helps and sorry for jumping to a wrong conclusion with Mark. Cheers Brian IP: Logged |
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