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Linda Jurasin
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posted 31 March 1999 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jurasin   Click Here to Email Linda Jurasin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My company formed a partnership with one of the universities for exotic tests i.e.: metallurgical/chemical. The university doesn't have formal certification. How far down the chain do we need to go with QS9000 T/E? Will the university need to be certified/accredited? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Marc Smith
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posted 17 April 1999 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Question: Is this collaboration strictly for research purposes (R&D)?

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Bryon C Simmons
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posted 17 April 1999 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bryon C Simmons   Click Here to Email Bryon C Simmons     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi.

I apologize for the delay.....have been busy, and also ill of late..finally getting back to normal....

First question would be if the university is considered to be a supplier to you. If so, then the rules of 4.6 apply....


I dont think they would need to be registered.....it would not be applicable....they would need to be made aware of your position with TE, and some general knowedge of it.

Marc poses a good question..is it for RD purposes?

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Linda Jurasin
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posted 19 April 1999 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jurasin   Click Here to Email Linda Jurasin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To answer Marc, no it is not always strictly for R & D. We might ask for help in solving a problem.

To answer Byron, the university is not considered a supplier. So 4.6 should not apply, correct?

Thanks for all your help.

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Tom Goetzinger
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posted 19 April 1999 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Goetzinger   Click Here to Email Tom Goetzinger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linda,
IMHO, the university has to be treated either as a supplier or as an extension of your organization. Frankly, I think treating them as a supplier might be the way to go. I would think that would be less demanding than considering them an extension of your company and would give you more leeway in how you document your involvement with them. You might want to discuss this with your registrar and develop your documentation in a way that they agree meets the intent of the standard.
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Bryon C Simmons
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posted 22 April 1999 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bryon C Simmons   Click Here to Email Bryon C Simmons     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linda,

Tom is making sense. I think that would be the easiest way to handle the situation. If you classify them as a supplier, make sure you add them to your approved suppplier list, and then go through the subcontractor development exercises. At this stage, you can define the extent of the control you need to exercise over them, etc etc.

Keep us posted.

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Tom Goetzinger
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posted 23 April 1999 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Goetzinger   Click Here to Email Tom Goetzinger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linda,
If you decide to treat them as a supplier, the notes on 4.6.2 (approved subcontractor list) and 4.6.2.1 (prioritization of subcontractors for development) may be helpful to you. The university has to fit the criteria you have established as required of your suppliers. That just means you have to be careful how you word the criteria.
Hope this helps. As Bryon said, please keep us posted; that's how we all learn what works and what doesn't
Tom Goezinger


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