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Daniel M. Miller
posted 27 March 2001 09:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My company is a design and build manufacture of multi-feature variable gaging systems. We build anything from stand alone bench gages to fully automated PLC type in line machines for dimensional measurement. We integrate technologies such as LVDT, capacitiance, eddy-current, laser, temeprature sensors, weigh scales, force, etc. We do not manufacture gaging such as ring gages, flush pin gages, dog-house type, etc. We have been removed from the bid-list of one major automotive plant because we are not Guide 25 /17025 accredited. I have written the buyer at this facility a letter stating that I will only use an accreduted laboratory for the calibration and certification of the gage steeing master used to set our equipment. They are unwilling to change their decision at this point. I do not beleive that the tent of ISO 900 Calibration Services 4.11.2.b.1 was written for an organization such as mine. The question is, where do I find written clarification on who is required and who is not required to hold the ISO/IEC Guide 25 / 17025 accreditation?

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posted 04 April 2001 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Christian Lupo   Click Here to Email Christian Lupo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you may have figured it out yourself....but just in case you didn't, if you perform calibration and testing for an automotive OEM or supplier, you had better be ISO Guide 25 or ISO 17025 accredited. Documented evidence can be found on the web at: see the latest sanctioned interpretations.

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posted 25 May 2001 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JerryStem   Click Here to Email JerryStem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just looked at the interpretations for QS9000 there and they mentioned the supplier (calibration company) must either be accredited or show proof they will be by Jan 2001.

Has that now been changed to only accredited, or did they move the "prospective" date again?

I've posted a similar question in the QS9000 forum asking what the latest reqts were for cal. labs. (I am an ISO25 accredited lab for calibrations in coating/plating thickness measurement, all the OEMs are not accredited but tell their customers they don't have to be, for QS9000. What's the truth?)


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posted 01 June 2001 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tomvehoski   Click Here to Email tomvehoski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The January 2001 date was implemented because there were not enough labs accredited when the Third Edition of QS-9000 was published in 1998. They allowed a three year extension to allow more labs to become certified. The supplier (QS-9000 company) had to have a plan in place to make sure that all sources they used would meet the deadline.

I just completed a 17025 project with a scale (mass) calibration company. They lost several customers over the last few months because they did not have their 17025 certification. Their QS customers were getting written up on surveillance audits because my client was not certified. Hopefully the will be able to get those customers back now.

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