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posted 28 June 2000 02:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear forum
I have a question about PFMEA. In FMEA manual published by AIAG, reduced "D" ranking by use "Preventative Maintenace". But in their instruction wrote that "preventative action" can reduce "O" ranking. Which is correct?

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posted 28 June 2000 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin Mader   Click Here to Email Kevin Mader     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting observation.

Is Prevention....Detection? By many standards, no.

By the usage in the FMEA, they associate Detection ratings with Current Process Controls (see the FMEA worksheet). As such, it will influence your D rating.

Occurence ratings are associated with the Process control. How often will a failure Mode occur if your Process Control is in place and functioning properly? As such, it also influences the O rating.

Perhaps both is the right answer. Anyone out there with more thought on this?

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posted 03 July 2000 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Behrooz:

You're just trying to confuse us, yes?

Like Kevin said: If you increase preventive maintenance, it's (if it works - increasing PM is not always going to reduce failures) going to reduce the probability that the equipment will fail - thus reducing the Occurance rating.

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posted 14 July 2000 11:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The SAE J1739 standard lists 3 types of controls. 1) Prevent a cause or Failure Mode, 2) Detect a Cause, 3) Detect a Failure Mode. Type 1 controls prevent, and therefore as "current" process controls have already reduced the Occurrence to the value you predict in the Occurrence column. Type 2 & 3 controls detect, and that is what is considered for the rating in the Detection column. All PM efforts reduce Occurrence. If there were no other controls, then there would be no detection and the Detection rating would be 10.

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