The Elsmar Cove Business Standards Discussion Forums More Free Files Forum Discussion Thread Post Attachments Listing Elsmar Cove Discussion Forums Main Page
Welcome to what was The Original Cayman Cove Forums!
This thread is carried over and continued in the Current Elsmar Cove Forums

Search the Elsmar Cove!

Wooden Line
This is a "Frozen" Legacy Forum.
Most links on this page do NOT work.
Discussions since 2001 are HERE

Owl Line
The New Elsmar Cove Forums   The New Elsmar Cove Forums
  Auditing
  Scheduling internal audits

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Scheduling internal audits
Lyndon Diong
Forum Contributor

Posts: 21
From:Ipoh, Parak, Malaysia
Registered:

posted 14 December 1998 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyndon Diong   Click Here to Email Lyndon Diong     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
4.17 "IQA shall be scheduled on the basis of the status and importance of the activity ..." Chrysler-specific req't says the IQA shall be conducted at least once per year. I intented to do the IQA once a year. Hence I did an audit on all elements and all departments in my company. A second party auditor commented that I failed for "... scheduled on the basis of the status and importance of the activity..." How should I resolve this?

Q2: Every two weeks, a Quality Engineer will audit the production. E.g. check on SPC, housekeeping, process parameters etc. Can I classify this as internal quality audit?

IP: Logged

Kevin Mader
Forum Wizard

Posts: 575
From:Seymour, CT USA
Registered: Nov 98

posted 14 December 1998 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin Mader   Click Here to Email Kevin Mader     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lyndon,

How did you prioritize areas, elements, etc.? You treated all the elements and departments with equal importance. This may be true enough, but you may need to adjust to meet Customer expectations. Otherwise, it seems a small point to make a large fuss over.

IP: Logged

Marc Smith
Cheech Wizard

Posts: 4119
From:West Chester, OH, USA
Registered:

posted 14 December 1998 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The bottom line is that for QS you have to have 1 round of internal audits every year, as I understand it. ISO is more lenient.

IP: Logged

Lyndon Diong
Forum Contributor

Posts: 21
From:Ipoh, Parak, Malaysia
Registered:

posted 14 December 1998 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lyndon Diong   Click Here to Email Lyndon Diong     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the reply. If the audit is once a year and not all the elements are audited, that will mean that some elements will not be audited every year. I have also come across auditors who require all elements to be audited and on all dept, including Adiminstration and Facilities, at least once a year.

IP: Logged

Marc Smith
Cheech Wizard

Posts: 4119
From:West Chester, OH, USA
Registered:

posted 14 December 1998 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's what I meant to say by 1 round of audits a year - a complete audit (all areas/elements).

IP: Logged

Kevin Mader
Forum Wizard

Posts: 575
From:Seymour, CT USA
Registered: Nov 98

posted 15 December 1998 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin Mader   Click Here to Email Kevin Mader     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Keep in mind that one audit in areas that have a history of being troublesome may not be enough (status - troublesome). In these areas you will need to schedule follow-up audits to ensure compliance. Overall, as Marc has said, you need to do the collective whole in a year's time.

IP: Logged

barb butrym
Forum Contributor

Posts: 637
From:South Central Massachusetts
Registered:

posted 18 December 1998 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for barb butrym   Click Here to Email barb butrym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alot depends on how you worded your procedure....they are correct on the requirement, but if you procedures say something additional then thats whats audited. Most say yearly as a minimun and may be adjusted re: as 'importance, status or criticality issues' dictate..so covers both requirements of the standard. On a generic report cover, you can put a check box for a schedule adjustment needed beacuse of xxx. So there is a record if it ever needs to happen. Originally I thought that was an 'auditor friendly' addition to the record, but have found it quite useful.

IP: Logged

All times are Eastern Standard Time (USA)

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply Hop to:

Contact Us | The Elsmar Cove Home Page

Your Input Into These Forums Is Appreciated! Thanks!


Main Site Search
Y'All Come Back Now, Ya Hear?
Powered by FreeBSD!Made With A Mac!Powered by Apache!