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posted 14 December 1998 04:13 AM               

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4.17 "IQA shall be scheduled on the basis of the status and importance of the activity ..." Chrysler-specific req't says the IQA shall be conducted at least once per year. I intented to do the IQA once a year. Hence I did an audit on all elements and all departments in my company. A second party auditor commented that I failed for "... scheduled on the basis of the status and importance of the activity..." How should I resolve this?

Q2: Every two weeks, a Quality Engineer will audit the production. E.g. check on SPC, housekeeping, process parameters etc. Can I classify this as internal quality audit?

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posted 14 December 1998 07:36 AM               

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Lyndon,

How did you prioritize areas, elements, etc.? You treated all the elements and departments with equal importance. This may be true enough, but you may need to adjust to meet Customer expectations. Otherwise, it seems a small point to make a large fuss over.

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posted 14 December 1998 07:47 AM               

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The bottom line is that for QS you have to have 1 round of internal audits every year, as I understand it. ISO is more lenient.

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posted 14 December 1998 07:58 PM               

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Thanks for the reply. If the audit is once a year and not all the elements are audited, that will mean that some elements will not be audited every year. I have also come across auditors who require all elements to be audited and on all dept, including Adiminstration and Facilities, at least once a year.

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posted 14 December 1998 08:31 PM               

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That's what I meant to say by 1 round of audits a year - a complete audit (all areas/elements).

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posted 15 December 1998 07:43 AM               

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Keep in mind that one audit in areas that have a history of being troublesome may not be enough (status - troublesome). In these areas you will need to schedule follow-up audits to ensure compliance. Overall, as Marc has said, you need to do the collective whole in a year's time.

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posted 18 December 1998 07:57 AM               

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Alot depends on how you worded your procedure....they are correct on the requirement, but if you procedures say something additional then thats whats audited. Most say yearly as a minimun and may be adjusted re: as 'importance, status or criticality issues' dictate..so covers both requirements of the standard. On a generic report cover, you can put a check box for a schedule adjustment needed beacuse of xxx. So there is a record if it ever needs to happen. Originally I thought that was an 'auditor friendly' addition to the record, but have found it quite useful.

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