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Ghai Lurker (<10 Posts) Posts: 2 |
posted 09 February 1999 09:12 AM
   
Dear Friends, I am going to conduct an In-house- Internal Quality Auditor's Training. How to go about it? Does one has to cover all the aspects of ISO1011 Parts 1 & 2?. Or is there a simple way. After all this forum has views expressed that the internal audits are to confirm effectiveness of the Quality System and not of ISo9002:1994. Any one can help me to develop a six hours ( that is max one get from the departments) course and if so, what shall I cover? Come on folks you are all Learned Ones of the Lord ISO9000. HELP! Ghai ------------------ IP: Logged |
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barb butrym Forum Contributor Posts: 637 |
posted 09 February 1999 08:35 PM
6 hours.....hhhhmmmmm Start with the principals..why, value added stuff..just for an intro....then get into the audit plan. Do an exercise of sorts...maybe a flow chart.....split the group..flow something simple....purchase a car, start a car, prepare a cup of coffee....etc. then also ceate an audit check sheet/plan...one team audits the other. Discuss techniques and reports...then go plan an audit...together. Send them off to perform it. Meet again for a quick discussion the next day to present the report. Another good exercise is the one Marc had about the albatross..its somewhere on the board still...I Imagine. It makes you look for evidence. just a quick off the cuff.....any specific help needed....just shout IP: Logged |
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Marc Smith Cheech Wizard Posts: 4119 |
posted 13 February 1999 06:43 AM
Barb did an excellent (concise) job of what to do. As far as whether to check against ISO or QS compliance.... There's a lot of heated (in some list-servs) debate about whether internal auditors should be checking for ISO or QS compliance in their audits. I say no - compliance to ISO or QS should be another function, so to speak. I'm not sure if anyone is winning this clarified a 'requirement' directly in a 'standard'. So - you can do either (for now). But if you do, you should ensure that the auditors are really qualified to 'judge' ISO or QS compliance. [This message has been edited by Marc Smith (edited 02-13-99).] IP: Logged |
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