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canan
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posted 16 February 1999 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for canan   Click Here to Email canan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If internal auditors are trained by Quality Assurance in company, is external training
and/or certification of auditors required for QS9000 standarts ?

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Dawn
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posted 16 February 1999 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dawn   Click Here to Email Dawn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
State in your procedure how training is provided, provide good accurate training and you have what you need. External training is not a requirement. You will find alot of things at this website to help you with auditing. Just provide the best training you can give yourself.Auditor training is on-going. You will see your auditors get better at it every time they audit. Relax and do your own thing. If you have good people workking for you, you will have a good internal audit system.

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Marc Smith
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posted 18 October 2000 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think this has ever become a 'requirement'.

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Al Dyer
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posted 01 November 2000 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Al Dyer   Click Here to Email Al Dyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although not a requirement of QS-9000 our lead auditor "suggested" we document some type of training requirements in our procedure.

For those migrating to TS-16949 the training requirement calls for compliance to customer requirements. As of this time, only G.M. has come out with their own TS-16949 customer specific requirements and they state that internal auditors "should" be qualified as recommended in ISO 10011- Part 2 as a minimum.

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Dave Davis
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posted 02 November 2000 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Davis   Click Here to Email Dave Davis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would review the methods of training provided by the QA department... Are they quilified to provide that type of training? I recommend to companies to send at least one individual out for external training and allow that person to develop a training program for the internal auditors. This seems to be efficient and cost effective.

An audit of your internal audits may provide some guidance as to additional training needs.

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barb butrym
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posted 05 November 2000 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for barb butrym   Click Here to Email barb butrym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 4.18 training requirement is to identify the need for training...this is where you decide and document what training the internal auditor needs....then go forth and provide that training, document it.....then evaluate its effectivity...and improve... ergo identify the changes that the training needs to be effective.....(as a result of Management review of the audit results perhaps?) Funny how it all ties together isn't it?

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