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B. Maynard Forum Contributor Posts: 23 |
posted 14 February 2001 11:06 AM
   
I would like to locate some tests to give our trained Internal Auditors. IP: Logged |
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ISO GUY Forum Contributor Posts: 81 |
posted 14 February 2001 12:28 PM
Who trained your internal auditors, was it done by you, an outside source? If they were trained in house, I would just make up a test from the material you used in training them. If they were trained by an outside source, I would assume they were tested by them, and you could always ask the trainer for a sample test. I wouldn't just train them (class room type), test them and say ok you can do internal audits now. I would also have them do audits along side you until they can demonstrate proficiency. Who is doing your internal audits now? IP: Logged |
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Dan Larsen Forum Contributor Posts: 137 |
posted 14 February 2001 02:50 PM
Personally, I don't know if a structured test is good idea. It can be hard enough getting internal auditors (see the thread at )http://https://elsmar.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000132.html Adding a test requirement may scare some away. I do think that performing a practice audit is probably the best test. Place them with a trained auditor for a practice audit and let the trained auditor critique and coach. If you really want to test them, I think the best test would be to set up some audit scenarios and see how they find compliance or non-compliance. I use this technique during training...not really as a structured "test", but as a vehicle to open up some discussion during the training. If your interested, let me know...I have these "discussion points" set up as Powerpoint slides and I could e-mail them. [This message has been edited by Dan Larsen (edited 14 February 2001).] IP: Logged |
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David Mullins Forum Contributor Posts: 248 |
posted 14 February 2001 05:55 PM
I train my own internal auditors and use a test, and issue a registered certificate. This provides ample proof of competency for snooping external auditors, and gives the internal auditors something to include in their resume/CV package. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Doug Stimson Forum Contributor Posts: 15 |
posted 15 February 2001 08:20 AM
We do a "test", pre/post test, titled Name That Clause where we site a particular nonconfoamance, then have the participants identify what the ISO clause or sub clause is and why. We also have a "script of dialog" between an of an audit process where the participants pick out not only the nonconforming situations but also particular auditor traits.ewtc. IP: Logged |
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barb butrym Forum Contributor Posts: 637 |
posted 17 February 2001 09:20 PM
we do role play and critique the auditor...I take the role of auditee and have fun with it, and control the play based on my "lesson" du jour.... Also do a real time audit together...no better test than the practical experience. IP: Logged |
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barb butrym Forum Contributor Posts: 637 |
posted 17 February 2001 09:23 PM
we do role play and critique the auditor...I take the role of auditee and have fun with it, and control the play based on my "lesson" du jour.... Also do a real time audit together...no better test than the practical experience. Also have a crossword/word find puzzle program that I sometimes use...have also heard of a jeopardy game......... IP: Logged |
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