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eee
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posted 17 March 2001 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eee   Click Here to Email eee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Finally,
What is the difference between "design" and "development" regarding cl. 7.3 of 9k2k?
I know that these terms have different meanings in different countries.
May be it has been already discussed?
Please give me corresponding references.

Thank you in advance

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posted 19 March 2001 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for energy   Click Here to Email energy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not an expert. Design is the beginning of the product development. Development is the monitoring requirements for inputs;outputs;validation;etc. Yes? No?

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posted 20 March 2001 07:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
May be. But What are contents of the "beginning"?

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posted 21 March 2001 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doug Stimson   Click Here to Email Doug Stimson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reference Q9000-2000 "Fundamentals and Vocabulary" there is a note to the definition stating " The terms design and development are sometimes used synonymously and sometimes used to define different stages of the overall design and development process".

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posted 21 March 2001 10:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you
But your reference doesn't clarify the situation

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posted 21 March 2001 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin Mader   Click Here to Email Kevin Mader     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ee,

Perhaps this might help:

Design - taking an idea or concept and translating it into a product (design).

Development - taking an existing design and making improvements to it over a period of time. Enhancements to a maturing product, for instance.

When reading the QS9000 requirements and the fact that they sometimes use terms interchangeably, it makes it difficult to interpret at times. This is further compounded by folks from different countries where words might not be synonymous or no equivalent exists. I don't know if this is totally avoidable but occasionally unfortunate.

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Kevin

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posted 21 March 2001 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for romelnar   Click Here to Email romelnar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it's like a cycle. when you design you have to develop it. and when it is developed you have to think of something else, then make a design out of it.

as in PDCA, PD-is like the design stage, CA-is like the development stage. then you start all over again.

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posted 22 March 2001 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for energy   Click Here to Email energy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
May be. But What are contents of the "beginning"?

ee,
In the "beginning" there was darkness.

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posted 22 March 2001 01:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you gentlemen for your assisstance. But do you know that in previuos drafts of ISO 9001:2000 (CD3,DIS) the name of ch. 7.3 was "Design and/OR development". So it means that somewhere (in different countries or in various fields of business activities) these are equal things. Am I right?

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posted 22 March 2001 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for energy   Click Here to Email energy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ee,
I agree. You are correct about the DIS version. Looks like it was changed for some reason. Could be the very confusion you mention. As it reads now, it's like one word. I would refer to it just as shown. Design and development. No difference between the two.
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posted 06 April 2001 08:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a difference between Des and Dev in software industry

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