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MADHAVAN
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posted 24 March 1999 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MADHAVAN   Click Here to Email MADHAVAN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

when i procure my input raw materials from a specific venodr as per clear directions from my customer, should i still evaluate this venodr as per the provisions of my own procedure?
problem is i am in india and this supplier is in Europe.

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Marc Smith
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posted 08 April 1999 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As I understand the requirement, you still have to 'rate' or 'evaluate' each supplier, even if your customer requires you to use a specific supplier. The intent is for you to determine the required level of receiving 'acceptance' or 'inspection' such as 'ship to stock' or '100% inspection'.

You can 'evaluate'your supplier by rating them from what you know. Or you can telephone them and speak with them and ask them your questions. Many companies send out questionaires and use the response for evaluation.

Don't over complicate what you have to do to 'evaluate' a company

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posted 08 April 1999 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Don Winton   Click Here to Email Don Winton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Marc's advise is sound and on target.

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The supplier shall...define the type and extent of control exercised by the supplier over subcontractors.

The key phrase is The supplier shall....

You define the type and extent, probably in the Level 2 documents. As Marc stated, do not over complicate matters. How this evaluation is conducted should be in the best interest of the organization and in compliance with the standard.

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onurtusa
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posted 10 April 2000 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for onurtusa   Click Here to Email onurtusa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello,
I am a scholar from University of Istanbul and for a research project I need help about "supplier perfermance evaluation".
Anykind of help welcomed.
onur

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Marc Smith
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posted 13 April 2000 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by onurtusa:

Hello,
I am a scholar from University of Istanbul and for a research project I need help about "supplier perfermance evaluation".
Any kind of help welcomed.
onur


Do you have a specific question about supplier performance evaluations?

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eskay
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posted 15 April 2000 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eskay   Click Here to Email eskay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm afraid I disagree with Marc & Don. If my customer insists that I have to buy from a specific supplier, why should I be bothered to evaluate him? I can buy from him for my customer's requirement alone and can treat this as "Customer supplied product".

I have a 'real-life' experience in this. The above explanation of mine was accepted by a third-party assessor during one of the periodic audits.

Instead of doing like this, why should I have to go through the process of evaluating the supplier (however simple the process may be!)?

Any comments/criticism on my view is most welcome!!

Kannan

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Marc Smith
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posted 15 April 2000 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by eskay:

...If my customer insists that I have to buy from a specific supplier, why should I be bothered to evaluate him? I can buy from him for my customer's requirement alone and can treat this as "Customer supplied product".

I have a 'real-life' experience in this. The above explanation of mine was accepted by a third-party assessor during one of the periodic audits.

Kannan


I can't say I disagree entirely with the premise that if a customer requires you to buy from a specific supplier, that could be interpreted as customer supplied material. However, so far I have not seen that successfully used as a reason for not evaluating a supplier. The times I have seen this approach attempted the auditor has disagreed with the interpretation. Even if you purchase the material directly from your customer, it is not 'customer supplied' by virtue of the fact that you did, indeed, purchase it.

If you got by with that interpretation, good for you. But as I read the requirement, and as I have seen the requirement interpreted in the past, the interpretation you put forth is not commonly accepted.

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eskay
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posted 15 April 2000 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eskay   Click Here to Email eskay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanx for your quick reply Marc. Yes, I do agree with you that we have "purchased" that item. But remember only for that particular customer and we don't have any history of buying an item from that particular supplier.

My comment in the first posting was based on that. In which context I felt this could be treated as 'customer supplied product'.

Thanx for the comment again.

Kannan

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posted 15 April 2000 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for barb butrym   Click Here to Email barb butrym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why not add "customer defined" as a means of control as "a commodity category" and list what you actually do (inspect upon receipt or point of use?) ...... I also define "retail" as a commodity category for control ... so you can go to a local hardware store for screws or tools (purchaser reviews and approves prior to purchase)... IF that suits the company.....rather than list the radio shack, Tru-value or Sears stores.

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