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SPatel Lurker (<10 Posts) Posts: 2 From: Registered:	posted 08 July 1998 10:45 AM Is it mandatory to use and comply to all the requirements set forth in AIAG's FMEA manual? Can I use other manuals like Ford's FMEA handbook and comply to its requirements. I am looking for other's experience in this regard since during our QS9K audit one of the auditor insisted on using and complying to the AIAG's manuals only because they are the only manuals referred in QS 9000 standard. IP: Logged
Howard Atkins Forum Wizard Posts: 202 From:Israel Registered:	posted 09 July 1998 11:05 PM This reply was posted to the QS9000 forum by Massimo Tosi Hi, I think that you can find the answer to your question by looking up the following Handbooks : 1) "Quality System Requirements" QS-9000 On page 1 : Introduction/Approch, the sentence : "...The word, 'shall' indicates mandatory requirements. The word, 'should' indicates a preferred approch ..." 2) "Potential Failure Mode and Effects Analysis FMEA" (Reference Manual). On the FOREWORD chapter you can read : "...Accordingly, this manual and format, which is approved and endorset by Chrysler, Ford and General Motors, SHOULD be used by suppliers implementing FMEA techniques into their design/manufacturing processes..." 3) "Advanced Product Quality Planning and Control Plan APQP" About both design FMEA Checklist on page 64 and for process FMEA on page 78 the question 1 asks if you have had performed the analysis according to QS-9000's requirements or not. So I think it is possible to follow the second chance ... do you agree? By the way. When I wrote the procedures for performing the FMEA in my factory, I suggested to use QS-9000 requirements. But according to the wishes of the Customer we can follow other forms too. In any case it is mandatory to agree with FMEA's checklists. Best regards : [This message has been edited by Howard Atkins.] IP: Logged
SPatel Lurker (<10 Posts) Posts: 2 From: Registered:	posted 10 July 1998 03:06 PM Thanks for the input. My understanding about shall and should requirements in Quality System Requirements- QS 9000 is that it is only limited to shall and should of QS 9000 only. Do we have to comply to all shall and should of all the reference manuals (i.e. FMEA, SPC, MSA etc). Moreover, in the same forward page of the "Potential Failure Modes and Effects Analysis" it cites that "This manual also is not intended to be a comprehensive FMEA reference source or training document". Does that mean that we can use other documents as FMEA reference. IP: Logged
Howard Atkins Forum Wizard Posts: 202 From:Israel Registered:	posted 11 July 1998 02:08 AM In the QS9000 edition 3 4.2.3.5 it says "refer to the Potential Failure Mode and Effects Analysis reference manual" This would imply that it is not mandatory. Further 4.2.4.1 "The supplier shall fully comply with all requirements of the PPAP manual. In the PPAP manual III 10. "refer to the PFMEA Manual." This would imply to me that it is possible to use any method as long as the FMEA is approved by the customer. IP: Logged
Marc Smith Cheech Wizard Posts: 4119 From:West Chester, OH, USA Registered:	posted 05 August 1998 08:09 AM I believe Howard is right. In QS shall means you must while should only gives you an option in how you approach compliance to the intent. IP: Logged
Howard Atkins Forum Wizard Posts: 202 From:Israel Registered:	posted 06 August 1998 12:31 AM I am closing this thread , please post FMEA quaestions in future to the FMEA forum IP: Logged

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