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posted 09 April 1999 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dawn   Click Here to Email Dawn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Suppliers should utilize a part approval process for subcontractors"
QS-9000 3rd edition
Can someone please define?

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posted 10 April 1999 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Howard Atkins   Click Here to Email Howard Atkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please look at the previous discussion at
I hope this helps

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posted 12 April 1999 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin Mader   Click Here to Email Kevin Mader     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Howard has pointed you in the right direction. I would like to add this question for you to consider.

What condition do you expect the parts your subcontractors manufacture to get to your facility in?

I know, a silly question. Yet the OEMs ask this question all the time. Why? Probably because they are aware that most organizations do not plan well (enough). That is why I believe that the OEMs ask you to ask the same question to your subcontractors. After all, what steps have they taken to submit you quality parts each and every time? Are they dimensionally correct? Are they the correct color and free of scratches? Did they package the parts properly for transit to your organization and for storage/usage? Did they plan to deliver you on time, every time with the correct merchandise?

The extension of the PPAP process feeds directly into Supplier Development as pointed out by Howard in the other posts (see the link if you haven't already). As this is an extension of your own Control Plan, keep this in mind and be sure that your suppliers keep good quality records (FMEAs, product verification and validation records, etc.) and that they are available, or have them send them the documentation to you to keep it on file.

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