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SGS
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posted 29 June 1999 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SGS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FYI-The new revsion of PPAP (May 1999) is now avaliable and the old revsion becomes obsolete Septemeber 1, 1999

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posted 29 June 1999 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Howard Atkins   Click Here to Email Howard Atkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you got a copy yet.
What are the changes.
Thanks

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SGS
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posted 29 June 1999 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SGS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my copy ordered from the aiag. In a nutshell the changes involve: reordering of PPAP requirements to align them with typical process flow, clarification of when submission is required, an appendix for heavy truck manufacturers, and most important for my purposes an appendix for bulk material suppliers. For more info, www.aiag.org/pub/dcxfordgm.html gives a summary of the changes and ordering information

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posted 09 August 1999 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike525   Click Here to Email Mike525     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just called AIAG and the lady I spoke with said the 3rd ed PPAP manual WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE UNTIL I SEPT 99. So, if the 2nd ed bcomes obsolete 1 Sept. 99, and the new edition isn't available until 1 Sept. 99....what's wrong with this picture?

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posted 11 October 1999 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steven Sulkin   Click Here to Email Steven Sulkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I ordered mine and it will be sent as soon as its complete. I have not seen it yet.

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PPAP-3 . . . Production Part Approval Process (PPAP Third Edition)
This manual is a requirement for production parts suppliers to DaimlerChrysler, Ford and General Motors. The Third Edition incorporates a number of revisions, which include:
Use of „auditableš language and a format consistent with QS-9000 Third Edition to support third party audit;
A reordering of the PPAP requirements aligned with the typical process flow;
Revision of „Preliminary Process Capability Requirements,š now called „Initial Process Studies,š to provide for the use of either Cpk or Ppk, depending on the amount and type of data available, consistent with the Statistical Process Control, SPC, reference manual;
Clarification of when customer notification and/or submission is required;
Incorporation of IASG Sanctioned Interpretations specific to PPAP;
Requirements for bulk material (see Bulk Material-Specific Appendix);
A Heavy Truck Manufacturer-Specific Appendix;
An enhanced glossary

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SGS
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posted 11 October 1999 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SGS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You may continue to use the old PPAP manual, even though technically obsolete until the new one comes out (This info came from our consultant).

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Dawn
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posted 15 December 1999 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dawn   Click Here to Email Dawn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The new one is out and the old one will be obsolete Feb. 1, 20000. I am not all the way through it, but I am trouble finding anything that needs changed from what we already do in teh second edition unless we would be a bulk supplier. Am I missing something?

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Howard Atkins
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posted 16 December 1999 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Howard Atkins   Click Here to Email Howard Atkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine should arrive in the next day or two.
I will see what I can find

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pmaizitis
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posted 21 January 2000 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pmaizitis   Click Here to Email pmaizitis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dawn is correct - however note the full requirement on page i of the 3rd edition PPAP: "The PPAP Third Edition obsoletes the Second Edition effective February 1, 2000 unless otherwise specified by your customer".
There appears to be some latitude with implementation and requirements as specified by the customer.
Pete Maizitis
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TUV Management Service

[This message has been edited by pmaizitis (edited 21 January 2000).]

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