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ml retcher
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posted 29 March 2000 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ml retcher   Click Here to Email ml retcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The third editon PPAP manual has a specific section for Truck OEM's. This is pages 47-51. I noticed after each clause there is a reference (e.g. see I.2.1). Are these the only clauses from the automotive section that are applicapable to the Truck OEM's?
Also I do not see the statement anymore on "SUPPLIERS MUST NEVER SHIP PRODUCTION QUANTITIES OF THEIR PRODUCTS BEFORE RECEIVING CUSTOMER APPROVAL". Is it gone?

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Marc Smith
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posted 31 March 2000 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have a 3rd edition PPAP book. Hopefully one of the others can help you here.

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Drew H
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posted 08 November 2000 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Drew H   Click Here to Email Drew H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My understanding is the Truck OEM section lists the truck OEM-specific instructions only, i.e. just the differences or special requirements; all other QS-9000 PPAP requirements apply.

Question: the North American Truck Industry Part Submission Warrant has a box in the Requested Submission Level section. The box has numbers 1 through 19, with number 1 already circled. There is no explanation that I can see as to the purpose of this box. Am I correct in assuming it indicates the current PPAP submission number for that particular part (i.e. first submission, circle number 1; second submission for the same part, perhaps due to a process change, circle number 2; third submission for the same part, perhaps due to an ECO, circle number 3; etc.)? Or is it for something entirely different?

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Al Dyer
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posted 08 November 2000 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Al Dyer   Click Here to Email Al Dyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ML,

They are refering back to the numbered section in the main body of the PPAP manual. For Truck suppliers I have been told by our auditor that they replace the regular "Automotive PPAP" which would make them less constrictive.

ASD...

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