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From:Lapeer, MI USA
Registered: Oct 2000

posted 06 May 2001 09:32 AM               

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Looking for input on the Chrysler requirement and how it will affect the current software we use.....

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posted 07 May 2001 09:19 AM               

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Al, What requirement? I know DC bought powerway, but as a DC supplier we have not been told to use the software.
Is there a new memo out pertaining to this?

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From:Lapeer, MI USA
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posted 07 May 2001 09:57 AM               

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Sam,

We received a letter from Diamler Chrysler dated 4/4/2001 that says we must start using powerway.com to handle all AQP activities starting with the 2004 model year.

Also see www.powerwayinc.com/dcxinfo

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[This message has been edited by Al Dyer (edited 08 May 2001).]

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From:Northbrook, IL, USA
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posted 07 May 2001 12:11 PM            

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We received the same letter. By the way, according to the Powerway website, suppliers have to pay DC to use this new required APQP "service". That will probably go over about as well as the mandatory 5% price reduction.

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From:Rochester, NY US
Registered: Aug 1999

posted 07 May 2001 12:30 PM               

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For all the D/C Suppliers, I sure hope the APQP modules of Powerway are easier to use than the document creation and control. This is not "easy to use" software - IMHO - and it would appear that Powerway landed on a gold mine with this one. And you have to pay for the requirement -Geez.....

Goes back to being give the Shall's and the should's but not the How to's. Now the How to's are shalls?

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posted 08 May 2001 01:03 AM               

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For more info on Powerway search the forums.There are a lot of postings.
Delphi wants their suppliers to use their PPAP forms etc but supply them to suppliers as a speadsheet.
It seems to me unreasonable to demand use of a specific software if it costs money but they are the customer.
The same happens with CAD systems

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From:Rochester, NY US
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posted 08 May 2001 07:44 AM               

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Howard - the PPAP spreadsheets in excel are so easy. That's why I can't see managing the system through canned software. Has Delphi gone across the board with the PPAP excel files, or just the division you are familiar with?

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posted 08 May 2001 07:55 AM               

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Laura,
I am sorry I don't know. Maybe others can help.

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posted 08 May 2001 08:42 AM               

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The web site is an impressive sell, however i take my chances and wait to see it in a contract requirement or a letter directly from DC.
We have Powerway installed, but do not use it; maintenance fees are too high,too difficult to use and suppotr was/is terrible.

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From:Romulus, MI, USA
Registered: Feb 2001

posted 08 May 2001 03:42 PM               

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We got the letter on April 4th along with a demo CD. The program is not the ordinary Powerway software (junk). The program is a web based system with "quality windows" that provide for a phased in APQP. I looks like the customer can go online and look at what the supplier has done at any given moment. Suppliers can get the latest engineering information and APQP requirements. I'm gonna wait to buy it until someone calls me on it or it shows up on the PASS report.

Greg

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From:Rochester, NY US
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posted 09 May 2001 09:23 PM               

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So what happens if you supply GM, Ford and Chrysler and already have a decent APQP system. Do you now have to invest in other software? Do you ultimately convert only the Chrysler stuff, or everything?

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