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AJPaton
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posted 28 May 2000 04:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AJPaton   Click Here to Email AJPaton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://pub2.ezboard.com/fartofprofoundknowledgeappreciationforasystem.showMessage?topicID=1.topic

Could something like this be considered a Preventive Action/Continuous Improvement? Has anyone gone this route? Other than as a charitable/community spirit sort of thing?

Just wondering,

AJP

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Marc Smith
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posted 30 May 2000 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe you could successfully argue that such a program could be classified as Preventive Action/Continuous Improvement in your company. The assumption is, of course, dependent upon your company hiring folks who speak (example) Spanish and is located in a primarily Engilsh speaking locale.

However, part of the arguement could rest upon when you started the program. As you know, the debate over corrective vs preventive, in so far as definition goes, leaves a lot of open ground. So, if you had a nonconformance whose root cause you traced to an employee not understanding a requirement (or whatever) because of their poor English, you have jumped into the reactive (thus it can't {ahemmmm} be preventive.

I'm sick of interpretations of what is preventive and what is corrective. I'm to a point where I'm classifying preventive as an FMEA and everything else is corrective...

Comments?

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Francesco
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posted 28 June 2000 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Francesco   Click Here to Email Francesco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I donāt understand this confusion of interpretations of preventive and corrective actions. In my opinion a preventive action is taken (why only FMEA?), to face a POTENTIAL nonconformance while every other action related to REAL nonconformance is a corrective action. I know that it sounds obvious, and for this reason Iād like to know which cases caused different interpretations. Anyone can give me an example?

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Marc Smith
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posted 28 June 2000 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Read http://https://elsmar.com/ubb/Forum32/HTML/000002.html for some thoughts on preventive action.

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