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martha gamboa
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posted 16 November 1999 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for martha gamboa   Click Here to Email martha gamboa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm looking for any information on Ohsas 18001. Can we purchase the guidelines, standards anything?? If you can give me some information, I know it's a pretty new item, but our company is asking for any information I can get. Help!!

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posted 17 November 1999 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Roger Eastin   Click Here to Email Roger Eastin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Forgive my ignorance: What is that standard?

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posted 18 November 1999 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've not heard of it either. I wonder what Ohsas is....

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posted 18 November 1999 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Don Winton   Click Here to Email Don Winton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From DNV:

"OHSAS 18001 was created by a number of certification organisations to address the need for a universally applicable and externally verifiable system for safety management. It provides a structured basis for coordinating efforts in health and safety, demonstrating compliance and managing risk."

A search at Alta Vista for "OHSAS 18001" generated 28 pages, most of which I found useless. I suspect this is too new.

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David Mullins
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posted 01 December 1999 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Mullins   Click Here to Email David Mullins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This standard appears to be linked to Det Norske Veritas (DNV). They are the agents of such beasts as the International Safety Rating System and international Environmental Rating System. Apparently over 5000 companies already have endorsed/certified systems under the ISRS program.
I too am seeking information on these topics, and will be approaching DNV for HELP. They are at http://www.dnv.com/
If anyone else can shed more light my bandwidth is waiting.

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David Mullins
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posted 02 December 1999 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Mullins   Click Here to Email David Mullins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By way of a summary of the standard:

REQUIREMENTS OF THE STANDARD
The structure of OHSAS 18001 is in line with the current models for management systems and consists of six sections:

1.General Requirements
This section stipulates that the organisation must establish and maintain an OH&S management system.

2.OH&S Policy
An OH&S policy statement must be produced. It must be appropriate to the organisation and specify a commitment to health and safety.

3.Planning
The organisation must formulate an action plan, with clearly documented procedures to fulfil its OH&S policy.

4.Implementation and Operation
Necessary capabilities and support mechanisms must be developed to achieve the objectives and targets within the organisation's OH&S policy.

5.Checking and Corrective Action
OH&S performance must be measured, monitored and evaluated.

6.Management Review
The standard requires the organisation to review and continually improve its OH&S management system, with the objective of improving its overall safety performance.

This looks like a walk in the park compared to the 3 different systems I have implemented. At the end of the day, all safety systems are aimed at achieving, as a minimum, compliance to relevant Occupational Health & safety legislation.
I HOPE THIS HELPS SOMEBODY!

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Randy
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posted 02 December 1999 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy   Click Here to Email Randy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I heard about this possibly being batted around the ISO world as ISO 18000.

It could create a lot of problems that would even exceed ISO 14000 when it comes to disclosure, documentation, corrective action and other things.

When a standard or potential standard starts overlapping OSHA requirements like we have here in the states the ramifications towards liability of business and management becomes horrendous.

Most US business's that don't want anything to do with ISO 14000 are influenced by the fact that all documents can be inspected by the EPA, who in their infinite wisdom may not accept that organizations corrective actions, aspects, identified impacts, and numerous other thing which are id'd under ISO 14000, thus subjecting them to massive fines and criminal prosecution.

I am an EHS professional. I work with this stuff every day. The concept of a safety management standard is good just like an environmental standard, it's just that here in the US it may be deadly towards business.

Something like this wouldn't be too voluntary. It would really be customer driven, and probably fought all the way by some.

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posted 05 December 1999 05:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also see https://elsmar.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000067.html

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Randy
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posted 28 January 2000 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy   Click Here to Email Randy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK guys I have some new info on this topic and need some help.

I was recently interviewed by a prospective new employer who is deeply involved with the ISRS as developed by DNV. The ISRS "International Safety Rating System" is something of a mystery to me and I really want to find out about it because that may give me an edge over the other candidates.

Other than my job prospects, I can certify that US based companies are involved with getting certified under this European management system. I saw the evidence myself.

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David Mullins
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posted 30 January 2000 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Mullins   Click Here to Email David Mullins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ISRS is like a 600 item compliance checklist.
The exact contents are unkown to me, but if you check out the Det Norske Veritas site at:
http://www.dnv.com/
you can identify your nearest DNV office around the globe.
Ask them all about it!
Cheers.

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Randy
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posted 31 January 2000 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy   Click Here to Email Randy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey thanks, I've done that.

I'm really curious about this because having a basic knowledge on the topic may help land the new job.

I have found out that Pepsi has been using it at plants in the US.

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Randy
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posted 18 April 2000 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy   Click Here to Email Randy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been going over a copy of the OHSAS 18001 Standard for a while now and I like it.

I'm going to integrate it into my safety consulting repertoire and use it just like 14000(works the same way as I see it).

The thing makes sense to me.

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David Mullins
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posted 19 April 2000 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Mullins   Click Here to Email David Mullins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randy, I'm glad you got into 18001.
Was DNV any help on the ISRS?

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eskay
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posted 15 May 2000 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eskay   Click Here to Email eskay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Everybody,
Sorry about responding so late. I've got the standards copy (hard copy) of OHSAS 18001.

If anybody is interested I would be glad to send it across. I'm planning to scan the standards (around 20 pages) & will send it in TIFF file format.

Please do mail me at: kannan@writeme.com

Thanx.

Kannan

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Randy
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posted 15 May 2000 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy   Click Here to Email Randy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi David....sorryI'm behind the powercurve with answering your question.

Yes, DNV was very helpful with information. BSI/CEEM was helpful too. I'm attending a BSI/CEEM training course in Sept on OHSAS 18001/BS8800.

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