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Al Dyer
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posted 28 December 2000 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Al Dyer   Click Here to Email Al Dyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is just a thought opening process question (possibility vs probabiltiy)

What came first? The Chicken or the egg?

I say the Chicken because it is a living entity. Some say the egg, although it is only a probability.

An egg can't lay a chicken!

Although a chicken can lay an egg!

(Let's not get into what the rooster does.)

Happy New Year.........

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Ken K
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posted 03 January 2001 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To answer your question, let's go back even further. In the beginning, there was nothing. Just empty space. But you need something to make something, so where did everything come from if there was nothing to begin with?

A chicken can lay an egg, but an egg can hatch a chicken.

One of life's many mysteries.

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David Mullins
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posted 03 January 2001 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Mullins   Click Here to Email David Mullins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was those devious adam and eve chooks - who else layed on the egg to keep it warm?

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Zeno
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posted 03 January 2001 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zeno   Click Here to Email Zeno     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm assuming you are looking for a serious answer. If so, then the egg had to come first as a genetic mutation of its evolutionary predecessor.

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Martin Bailey
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posted 04 January 2001 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Martin Bailey   Click Here to Email Martin Bailey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Picking up on the empty space reply. It was once thought the earth was the centre of the universe, then our sun, then our galaxy. Yet since the universe has no central point and the HST (Hubble Space Telescope) has confirmed the universe is expanding.....what is it expanding into?
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Alf Gulford
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posted 04 January 2001 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alf Gulford   Click Here to Email Alf Gulford     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that, as we develop more technically advanced instrumentation, we'll find that the earth really is the center of the universe, and that it is flat.

Don't get too close to the edge.

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Jim Evans
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posted 05 January 2001 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Evans   Click Here to Email Jim Evans     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A slight variation on the theme:
Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)? You have to support your answer with proof.

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Jim Biz
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posted 05 January 2001 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Biz   Click Here to Email Jim Biz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hell accomplishes "both":

Proof would be found in ISO/Qa offices

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David Mullins
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posted 07 January 2001 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Mullins   Click Here to Email David Mullins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My first response is that it is exothermic because it is hot to the touch, therefore giving off energy/heat, rather than be cold to the touch (hell freezing over). Other re-inforcing scenarios include: hell hath no fury like a women scorned - and you can really feel the heat radiating from them from my experience!

But rather than a chemical reaction, this may be a biological event, thus suggesting that it is exergonic rather than exothermic (just for confusion's sake).

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Jim Evans
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posted 08 January 2001 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Evans   Click Here to Email Jim Evans     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This question actually appeared on a midterm chemistry exam at Texas A&M University. The foolowing response received the only A for the exam:

"First we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving. I think we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different religions. Some state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there are more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all people and all souls go to Hell. Wtih birth and death rates as they are we can expect the number of souls to increase exponentially.

Now, we look at the rate of change in the volume in Hell, because Boyles law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same the volume of Hell has to expand as souls are added. This gives two possibilities: (1)If Hell is expanding at a slower rate at which souls enter, then temperature and pressure will increase until all Hell breaks loose. (2) Of course, if Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase in souls, then temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over. So which is it?

If we accept the postulate given to me by Ms. Sheryl Atkinson during my freshman year, that "It will be a cold night in Hell before I sleep with you," and take in to account the fact that I still have not succeeded in having sexual relations with her, then (2) cannot be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic."

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Jim Evans

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