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rrramirez
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posted 09 August 2001 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rrramirez   Click Here to Email rrramirez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RANDY:
Our company is ISO 9000 registered (1994 version)
Our intention is to integrate ISO 14001:1996 clauses in our QMS Manual in order to request to our registrar the EMS registration.
Would you please give me some hints regarding this matter?
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posted 09 August 2001 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy   Click Here to Email Randy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the back of the standard you will find a chart showing the realtionship between 14001 and 9000:1994, use it.

Once you integrate the corresponding elements, all you will need to do is devlope those that are parculiar to 14000 alone, such as regulatory requirements, your aspect identification and significant aspect management, objectives and targets, emergency preparedness, and all the other things. Combine the quality and environmental policy into one policy.

Use the same basic audit, corrective and preventive action, document control and that stuff which is in place.

Remember, whatever you do, you need to address all 17 required elements of the standard. How you address tham and to what extent is your business.

Don't re-invent the wheel. Keep it simple. ISO 14001 only has requirements for 14 procedures and most are in place with organizations have ISO 9000 in place.

I hope this helps. (I've never been to Venezuela)

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posted 11 August 2001 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rrramirez   Click Here to Email rrramirez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randy:
For Registration purpose:
Is it possible to write the two manuals (EMS and QMS ones) in just one of them?

Venezuela is a wonderful country but.., right now... Mr President Chavez invited Fidel Castro to stay in Venezuela (the Angelīs fall and its vecinities) during his birthday. Oh my God!
Thanks, Reinaldo

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posted 11 August 2001 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy   Click Here to Email Randy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is not a requirement for an EMS manual, but it is highly recommended. Don't take more than 1 page per element (17).

It would be best if you had both QMS and EMS integrated into the same manual (so many of the elements compliment each other (as I stated earlier).

It is totally up to you as to how you handle it. There is no right or wrong.

Fidel is too long in the tooth to be much trouble. I think he is slowing down and recognizes the failures of the system he tried to engineer. If we (Americans) would back off some and give him some space he may lighten and loosen up. He originally probably meant well for his people, but the folks he surrounded himself with, plus our arrogance bred distrust and hard feelings. (I can't believe I said that about a communist dictator).

Good luck with your effort, and if you need more information this forum is a great place to get help.

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posted 12 August 2001 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rrramirez   Click Here to Email rrramirez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More questions will follow regarding EMS documentation.

1) About the Environmental Policy:
Is conformant to the ISO 14001 requirement to have an integrated quality and enviromental policy without the especific requirements 4.2 a), b), c) an so on and include them in a Environmental Declaration (substitute of the formal environmental policy as per 4.2. This declaration will be included in the EMS/QMS Manual for registration.

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