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From: sigy
Reply-To: sigy@sympatico.ca
Newsgroups: misc.industry.quality
Subject: Objective evidence
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:17:40 GMT
Organization: Sympatico

Going paperless, ISO 9002.
How much objective evidence is enough evidence of quality?
Records, to what extend?
Objectives evidence of activities performed or results achieved. Who
says how many papers I need to provide obectives evidences. How do
certifier knows when enough evidence is enough!
To what extend do we have to have procedure, is flow chart enough?
Comments welcome, I need a little.... HELP!
Any idea for best paperless software?
Thanks.Mike

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On 2/17/00 9:17 AM in article 38AC039E.2CCC@sympatico.ca, sigy at sigy@sympatico.ca wrote :

> Going paperless, ISO 9002.

Welcome to the club!

You might want to review:
https://elsmar.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/000004.html
and https://elsmar.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/000003.html

as starters.

> How much objective evidence is enough evidence of quality?

What part of 'quality'?

> Records, to what extend?

Depends upon the system and the intent. Training records? Records of internal audits? Records of inspection and test? Purchasing records? Shipping records?

> Objectives evidence of activities performed or results achieved. Who
> says how many papers I need to provide obectives evidences. How do
> certifier knows when enough evidence is enough!

The registrar's auditor has paradigms, as do we all. It is up to you to determine what evidence you feel is enough for any giving system and you must be ready to discuss your reasoning / interpretation. As with the above question, however, unless you want to be more specific it is difficult to answer. What activities? Inspection and test? Management Review meetings? Effectiveness of corrective actions? There are an awful lot of activities...

> To what extend do we have to have procedure, is flow chart enough?

Typically Yes.
(simple)

Also see: /canned_1/
and /canned_2/
and /qs_proc/

> Comments welcome, I need a little.... HELP!
> Any idea for best paperless software?
> Thanks.Mike

Stop by the forums for more specific help.

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