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Randy
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posted 26 February 2001 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy   Click Here to Email Randy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
posted 25 February 2001 07:45 PM
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I really need some help from any of you folks that may work for a Registrar. I have an interview with a Registrar this week. They say they want me and that they need me (actually it's my credentials I guess). What do I have to look forward to?
What do Registrars really look for in a an Auditor? I've got credentials ( RAB EMS-LA), I've got education (finishing MBA), I've got some experience (that's how I got the EMS-LA), I'm not too stupid (I belong to MENSA), I'm mature (turn 50 in July) and my wife says I'm good lookin'.

Where may I fall short? (I'm 6ft)

What is a decent compensation? What can I hope to get as bennies? Who pays expenses? Why are we here? Why is the air blue?

I have lots of questions.......HELP!!!!!!!

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D.Scott
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posted 26 February 2001 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D.Scott   Click Here to Email D.Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congrats Randy - Relax and be yourself. From the posts you have written here, you will be fine.
From my experience with auditors, the main thing registrars look for is a heart beat. The education is certainly a bonus although every auditor I have met graduated first in his class at MIT. It is also good you belong to MENSA as that is a requirement (sort of the auditor's union). One thing worries me though: "I have lots of questions .. HELP !!!!!!" We all know a TRUE auditor has ALL THE ANSWERS.
When it comes to payments FROM a registrar, "decent compensation" is an oxymoron. As for paying expenses, you know it is us poor clients who foot the bill. Just a final note - your wife says I'm good looking too.
All kidding aside - Good luck - I hope you get the job.
Dave

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ISO GUY
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posted 26 February 2001 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ISO GUY   Click Here to Email ISO GUY     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randy, it all depends on the Registrar some pay you per day you audit (No benefits), some pay you a salary and your audit days will vary. As far as expense I would assume you are talking about travel, hotel, meals, lodging etc.., that would be covered by your Registrar who in turn charge their client. What would a good Registrar look for, that you would be able to obtain and assess objective evidence fairly, remain true to the scope of the audit without deviating, evaluate the effects of audit observations, treating personnel in a way that will best achieve the audit objectives, perform the audit with out deviation due to distractions, react effectively in stressful situations, arrive at generally acceptable conclusions based on audit observations, base findings on fact not speculation, communicate effectively (written and oral), politely stand by conclusions despite pressure to change what is not based on evidence, etc...

Hope this helps.

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Ann dawkins
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posted 26 February 2001 09:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Make sure the regitars' name doesn't start with a letter that corresponds with the number 16 and 10!

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Randy
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posted 27 February 2001 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy   Click Here to Email Randy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks.....and I don't think 16 - 10 is suitable for me. They seem to have a snotty attitude. I also have developed an opinion about the company that corresponds with 21 - 12 (they don't want you unless you have an engineering degree..nothing else counts for them).

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Laura M
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posted 27 February 2001 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laura M   Click Here to Email Laura M     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's wrong with 16-10?

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Marc Smith
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posted 27 February 2001 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I assume 16-10 is Perry Johnson.

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Al Dyer
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posted 27 February 2001 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Al Dyer   Click Here to Email Al Dyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Laura,

If you wish to discuss 16-10 e-mail me.

ASD...

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Randy
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posted 28 February 2001 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy   Click Here to Email Randy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pretty good guess Marc. They're advertising for Auditors like a couple of other Registrars are, but they seem to talk to a person like something the cat threw up on the carpet and that they're doing everyone a great favor. "P" on that.

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barb butrym
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posted 02 March 2001 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for barb butrym   Click Here to Email barb butrym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pay varies...most are better to their contract auditors than the full time ones. the bennies range from A-Z night and day..etc....

Contract ISo9K auditors get about 400 - 600 a day plus expenses.... but get screwed on travel time till they learn the ropes.

One company I work with has offered $75K annual, another $57 but the bennies were the factor that made them break near even in the end.

be careful what you wish for.( the living from a suitcase gets old real quick!!!!)

EMS should command more $$$$........and more travel time.

good luck....

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Randy
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posted 09 March 2001 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy   Click Here to Email Randy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The interview went OK. I got a $450 a day + expenses minimum for on-site and $250 daily for desk audit stuff. My consulting rate with their associate agency is a $500 daily minimum or 50% of the rate they charge the client (whichever is the greater) and expenses.

I guess I did OK for a new guy. I know most folks probably make more but I had to start somewhere. If I can get a guarantee of enough days I'll bail from my present job and do the suitcase thing awhile (mainly out West here I was told)....the wifey said go for it.

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Al Dyer
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posted 09 March 2001 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Al Dyer   Click Here to Email Al Dyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randy,

Good luck!

I hope you keep posting to the forum.

ASD...

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Marc Smith
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posted 09 March 2001 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congrats and good luck! Now - which registrar? (So we can write and warn them about you and your latent insanity as evidenced by your frequent visits to these forums )

[This message has been edited by Marc Smith (edited 09 March 2001).]

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Randy
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posted 10 March 2001 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randy   Click Here to Email Randy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
American Global Standards....formerly Davy Scott. They relocated to Oxnard, CA from Boston. I'll initially be doing the part-time thing from home and may eventually throw myself into the fire. Right now I just plan to get my toes (not my feet) wet. We'll see what happens.

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D.Scott
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posted 11 March 2001 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D.Scott   Click Here to Email D.Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well done Randy - All the best to you.
Dave

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Marilyn P
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posted 17 April 2001 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marilyn P   Click Here to Email Marilyn P     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Al; I would like to discuss 16-10 please. May I e-mail you?

I sent them a resume but only because I just finished the ISO9K 5 day Lead Auditor Training through them - and the trainers were such huge cheerleaders for the company!

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Al Dyer
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posted 17 April 2001 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Al Dyer   Click Here to Email Al Dyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure, just click the e-mail icon on the topic bar of my post.

ASD...

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Marilyn P
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posted 17 April 2001 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marilyn P   Click Here to Email Marilyn P     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Al - thanks! CYE.

Marilyn

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