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mjr511
Hi,
We maintain a management system certified to 9001 and 14001.
The scope of our system is the “Management and design of Projects and Tasks including highways, bridges, drainage, coastal protection works and Road Safety Initiatives to meet the requirements of Customers and Stakeholders, whilst maintaining regard to this organisation's recognised environmental responsibilities.”
Basically our department (the system is for a department within a local government authority) handles the project management of civil engineering schemes, so it's the design and project management. With respect to the site we project manage (eg keep control of cost, time, and quality) but we employ external contractors from different organisations to do the work.
What is the view of the community on where our legal responsibilities end? Currently our system requires project managers to carry out regular site inspections (which cover quality, environmental and health & safety elements) on all schemes, and our audit team do the same (on the specific projects they audit).
Should the PM and the auditor (as we do now) be checking that the contractor is complying with legal requirements? Or should the auditor simply be checking that the PM is following the instruction to do site inspections? Does the PM need to do site inspections at all? (not that we would stop doing them but I'm interested in the views of the community)
Two of our audit team have different views on where they need to stop auditing. One suggests that carrying out a quick check that the contractor is complying with legal requirements is sufficient, whilst the other is of the opinion that they need to go into more depth than this.
We've also had differing views from our certifying body - some of their auditors seem to expect us to go quite indepth with the contractors compliance with the law, whilst the latest one we had just checked that we had carried out site inspections in line with our instruction under our management system and moved on.
Opinions on where our responsibilities under 9001/14001 start and end are welcomed.
Regards, Mike
We maintain a management system certified to 9001 and 14001.
The scope of our system is the “Management and design of Projects and Tasks including highways, bridges, drainage, coastal protection works and Road Safety Initiatives to meet the requirements of Customers and Stakeholders, whilst maintaining regard to this organisation's recognised environmental responsibilities.”
Basically our department (the system is for a department within a local government authority) handles the project management of civil engineering schemes, so it's the design and project management. With respect to the site we project manage (eg keep control of cost, time, and quality) but we employ external contractors from different organisations to do the work.
What is the view of the community on where our legal responsibilities end? Currently our system requires project managers to carry out regular site inspections (which cover quality, environmental and health & safety elements) on all schemes, and our audit team do the same (on the specific projects they audit).
Should the PM and the auditor (as we do now) be checking that the contractor is complying with legal requirements? Or should the auditor simply be checking that the PM is following the instruction to do site inspections? Does the PM need to do site inspections at all? (not that we would stop doing them but I'm interested in the views of the community)
Two of our audit team have different views on where they need to stop auditing. One suggests that carrying out a quick check that the contractor is complying with legal requirements is sufficient, whilst the other is of the opinion that they need to go into more depth than this.
We've also had differing views from our certifying body - some of their auditors seem to expect us to go quite indepth with the contractors compliance with the law, whilst the latest one we had just checked that we had carried out site inspections in line with our instruction under our management system and moved on.
Opinions on where our responsibilities under 9001/14001 start and end are welcomed.
Regards, Mike