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Hello all,
Although I have spent many hours on these forums, this is my first time posting. So let me start by saying that it is truly amazing to have access to such great material from brilliant minds across the world!
And speaking of brilliant, I hope someone out there has the brain power to help me out with an ISO problem. My company is ISO 13485 certified. We just completed an audit, and the auditor found several minor nonconformities. In particular, he noted that "It was observed that the procedure for supplier qualification does not clearly define the criteria for supplier selection, evaluation and re-evaluation as well as what records are maintained to demonstrate conformance." He verbally explained to me that the root of our problem was that we were not qualifying companies who supply basic office materials, including our toilet paper (yes, I specifically asked) which, no doubt, can have a dramatic effect on quality throughout an organization and should be monitored accordingly .
Based on what I have seen in other posts, many experts would tell this auditor to go back to auditor school and take better notes this time. I would love tell him that, but I need to be able to back up my disagreement with substance based on the ISO 13485 standard itself. And the standard does require our company to evaluate and select suppliers (see section 7.4 of the ISO 13485:2003 text) - granted, the type and extent of control may vary, but there is no clause saying that SOME suppliers require essentially no control.
Even more problematic is the requirement to keep records of supplier evaluations (again, ALL suppliers as far as I can tell) and re-evaluations and any necessary actions. So if I buy toilet paper from Costco, then must I must maintain a record somewhere showing that I evaluated Costco and this supplier met our stringent toilet paper standards? And periodic re-evaluations of the ongoing toilet paper quality? Believe me, I really don't want to write up the product requirements in this case and evaluate them!
Any wisdom or insight experts can offer would be welcome. I would prefer to keep our quality requirements simple so that people will implement them in the places where it really matters. It seems like putting petty items like toilet paper onto the same plane as medical equipment is just begging for the employees to stop taking the quality requirements seriously.
Although I have spent many hours on these forums, this is my first time posting. So let me start by saying that it is truly amazing to have access to such great material from brilliant minds across the world!
And speaking of brilliant, I hope someone out there has the brain power to help me out with an ISO problem. My company is ISO 13485 certified. We just completed an audit, and the auditor found several minor nonconformities. In particular, he noted that "It was observed that the procedure for supplier qualification does not clearly define the criteria for supplier selection, evaluation and re-evaluation as well as what records are maintained to demonstrate conformance." He verbally explained to me that the root of our problem was that we were not qualifying companies who supply basic office materials, including our toilet paper (yes, I specifically asked) which, no doubt, can have a dramatic effect on quality throughout an organization and should be monitored accordingly .
Based on what I have seen in other posts, many experts would tell this auditor to go back to auditor school and take better notes this time. I would love tell him that, but I need to be able to back up my disagreement with substance based on the ISO 13485 standard itself. And the standard does require our company to evaluate and select suppliers (see section 7.4 of the ISO 13485:2003 text) - granted, the type and extent of control may vary, but there is no clause saying that SOME suppliers require essentially no control.
Even more problematic is the requirement to keep records of supplier evaluations (again, ALL suppliers as far as I can tell) and re-evaluations and any necessary actions. So if I buy toilet paper from Costco, then must I must maintain a record somewhere showing that I evaluated Costco and this supplier met our stringent toilet paper standards? And periodic re-evaluations of the ongoing toilet paper quality? Believe me, I really don't want to write up the product requirements in this case and evaluate them!
Any wisdom or insight experts can offer would be welcome. I would prefer to keep our quality requirements simple so that people will implement them in the places where it really matters. It seems like putting petty items like toilet paper onto the same plane as medical equipment is just begging for the employees to stop taking the quality requirements seriously.