Supplier Evaluation during a Monthly Meeting?

[Anerol C]

Hello!
I need your advice.

My company purchasing manager didn't want to have a supplier quality manual neither a Supplier rating process for supplier(purchasing don't have the enough resources to do it ), so I suggested to him to have a monthly meeting with the buyers and SQA's to discuss supplier performance, delivery, quality, issues, etc and determine if actions needed to be requested to supplier (CAR's or any other). he was agreed and I organized the first meeting and explain the purpose of it and record the minutes of the meeting and gave them to Purchasing manager. Purchasing manager never organized another meeting.
I'm not sure if he doesn't undestand the ISO 9000 standard or he doesn't care about it. Do you have some info/Literature/presentation taht I can provide to him for review?
Do you think that a monthly meeting and records of meeting and complete the agreed actions would be enough to satisfy the standard?
Thanks for your help and time.
AC

 

[Randy]

Excuse me?

Ask your whatever what they think this means....

7.4.1 Purchasing process
The organization shall ensure that purchased product conforms to specified purchase requirements. The type and extent of control applied to the supplier and the purchased product shall be dependent upon the effect of the
purchased product on subsequent product realization or the final product.

The organization shall evaluate and select suppliers based on their ability to supply product in accordance with the organization's requirements. Criteria for selection, evaluation and re-evaluation shall be established. Records of the results of evaluations and any necessary actions arising from the evaluation shall be maintained (see 4.2.4).

 

[Sidney Vianna]

Why have a meeting? If you have the data on supplier performance, you don't need a meeting. Just add criteria for SCAR trigger, supplier disqualification, probation status, etc...assign the responsibility for supplier performance evaluation to someone who has to track and report it.

It seems to me that having a meeting is an unnecessary bureaucracy that might not add value.

 

[Randy]

Let's meet about the meeting we're gonna meet about.

 

[Anerol C]

Why have a meeting?

Because I thought this would encourage a little bit to Purchasing to take care of supplier evaluation and start evaluating supplier performance and get data to be ready for the meeting.

 

[michellemmm]

Because I thought this would encourage a little bit to Purchasing to take care of supplier evaluation and start evaluating supplier performance and get data to be ready for the meeting.

Anerol,

Do you have Management Review meeting? How often?

Do you conduct Internal Audits? How often does purchasing process gets audited?

The minutes of the Management Review meetings should point directly to deficiency of this process.

 

[Anerol C]

Anerol,

Do you conduct Internal Audits? How often does purchasing process gets audited?

Last december 2007 an internal audit was completed for Purchasing processes, and a non conformance was raised due missing process to conduct supplier evaluation, but Purchasing manager has not addressed the issue yet.

I wanted to know if my "idea" about the meeting was appropiate, but based on responses I don't think so.

 

[CliffK]

Because I thought this would encourage a little bit to Purchasing to take care of supplier evaluation and start evaluating supplier performance and get data to be ready for the meeting.

This only works if the guy that Purchasing reports to calls the meeting and is serious about it so he asks tough questions during the meeting.

Why don't you instead ask Purchasing what would cause them to cut off a supplier? If quality isn't part of the answer, then you have a problem. If quality is part of the answer, ask them how they keep track of supplier quality.

 

[world quality]

Anerol C,

He is a copy of a SCAR that I use in relation to suppliers.
When you add a $250.00 Admin. charge, rework, labor, Offline cost,Material, and Freight. This gets there attention real fast.

 

[grismosw7]

Hello!
I need your advice.

My company purchasing manager didn't want to have a supplier quality manual neither a Supplier rating process for supplier(purchasing don't have the enough resources to do it ), so I suggested to him to have a monthly meeting with the buyers and SQA's to discuss supplier performance, delivery, quality, issues, etc and determine if actions needed to be requested to supplier (CAR's or any other). he was agreed and I organized the first meeting and explain the purpose of it and record the minutes of the meeting and gave them to Purchasing manager. Purchasing manager never organized another meeting.
I'm not sure if he doesn't undestand the ISO 9000 standard or he doesn't care about it. Do you have some info/Literature/presentation taht I can provide to him for review?
Do you think that a monthly meeting and records of meeting and complete the agreed actions would be enough to satisfy the standard?
Thanks for your help and time.
AC

How many suppliers do you have yourself? I've been in your shoes before and took it upon myself to track supplier performance. The information wasn't shared with suppliers initially but after a few years and more people started hearing about what I was doing, it was rolled out throughout the company.

If nothing else it will make your job easier, you have to have data.

I think the meeting is a good idea if it was accompanied with data, we always used to identify the Top 5 Worse Suppliers on a monthly basis. From there we'd proceed with development of that supplier.