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My MEE design has two electrically isolated SIP/SOP. Per 8.4.2 NOTE 4
If the SIP/SOP circuit is completely isolated from the floating (non-earth referenced) SECONDARY CIRCUIT by an own insulation barrier of at least 1 MOOP based on MAINS VOLTAGE, i.e. a SEPARATION DEVICE according to 16.5, the measurement of the SIP/SOP connector to earth TOUCH CURRENT does not need to be conducted. In such cases it is sufficient to evaluate the effectiveness of the SEPARATION DEVICE by measurement according to 8.7.4.7 c).
and 16.5,
The SEPARATION DEVICE shall have the dielectric strength, CREEPAGE DISTANCES and AIR CLEARANCES required for one MEANS OF OPERATOR PROTECTION appropriate for the highest voltage occurring across the SEPARATION DEVICE during a fault condition.
The WORKING VOLTAGE shall be the highest voltage across the SEPARATION DEVICE during a fault condition, but not less than the MAXIMUM MAINS VOLTAGE.
the insulation requirement is 1xMOOP, no insulation class specified. However a party raised the issue that, for Class II, it should be 2xMOOP based on 8.1 a) requirements (assume MAXIMUM MAINS VOLTAGE unless documentation imposes restrictions on SIP/SOP). I remember seeing a discussion on this forum, on a related subject, where someone (IIRC, Peter Selvey) commented the MAXIMUM MAINS VOLTAGE motivation considers the scenario where there is no direct connection but instead, there is some leakage between the MAINS and the device connected to SIP/SOP. Therefore, unlike e.g. 2xMOOP betwe between MAINS and accessible parts, 1xMOOP between isolated SIP/SOP and accessible parts would be enough.
I see a parallel with the case of Figure J.4 where requirement is also 1xMOP (1xMOOP in the case) for MAXIMUM MAINS VOLTAGE.
Am I missing something?
FWIW the electronics use components that stand 4000Vac test with reinforced insulation to separate the isolated part of the port from the SECONDARY CIRCUITS. Clearance and creepage are a little less than the required 6mm for 2xMOOP for 5000m altitude though.
If the SIP/SOP circuit is completely isolated from the floating (non-earth referenced) SECONDARY CIRCUIT by an own insulation barrier of at least 1 MOOP based on MAINS VOLTAGE, i.e. a SEPARATION DEVICE according to 16.5, the measurement of the SIP/SOP connector to earth TOUCH CURRENT does not need to be conducted. In such cases it is sufficient to evaluate the effectiveness of the SEPARATION DEVICE by measurement according to 8.7.4.7 c).
and 16.5,
The SEPARATION DEVICE shall have the dielectric strength, CREEPAGE DISTANCES and AIR CLEARANCES required for one MEANS OF OPERATOR PROTECTION appropriate for the highest voltage occurring across the SEPARATION DEVICE during a fault condition.
The WORKING VOLTAGE shall be the highest voltage across the SEPARATION DEVICE during a fault condition, but not less than the MAXIMUM MAINS VOLTAGE.
the insulation requirement is 1xMOOP, no insulation class specified. However a party raised the issue that, for Class II, it should be 2xMOOP based on 8.1 a) requirements (assume MAXIMUM MAINS VOLTAGE unless documentation imposes restrictions on SIP/SOP). I remember seeing a discussion on this forum, on a related subject, where someone (IIRC, Peter Selvey) commented the MAXIMUM MAINS VOLTAGE motivation considers the scenario where there is no direct connection but instead, there is some leakage between the MAINS and the device connected to SIP/SOP. Therefore, unlike e.g. 2xMOOP betwe between MAINS and accessible parts, 1xMOOP between isolated SIP/SOP and accessible parts would be enough.
I see a parallel with the case of Figure J.4 where requirement is also 1xMOP (1xMOOP in the case) for MAXIMUM MAINS VOLTAGE.
Am I missing something?
FWIW the electronics use components that stand 4000Vac test with reinforced insulation to separate the isolated part of the port from the SECONDARY CIRCUITS. Clearance and creepage are a little less than the required 6mm for 2xMOOP for 5000m altitude though.
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