During the last Audit, the thirth parth Auditor has wrote down a "Non conformity" on point 4.2.3 of . ISO 9001:2000.
The object of "non conformity" was the Technical Specifications with the parameters used for the set-up of one of ours furnaces (EAF).
The specifications are managed by furnace managers that usually edit the specifications in a sql database ( they don't use papers).
After that from sql sever (liv III) the parameters are sended for every set- up (one specification for every kind of steel) to automation of the furnace (LIV II).
(if anybody is interested on here there is an exercitation with use of some of this specifications: http ://www .steeluniversity. org/content/html/eng/eaf-sim.asp - DEAD (404) LINK DECOUPLED)
The database takes note of the name of the manager that has changed the specifications but not of the scope of the changes, and they don’t use have registrations of obsolete specifications because in the last 20 years the managers haven’t had the necessity to have this kind of registrations.
Anyway the auditor said that isn’t easy understand:
who is tath has approved the last edition of the specifications,
the identifications of every specifications (that are called with the name of the steel),
the traceability of modifications.
Who is on the right side, the Auditor or the managers?
This kind of documents (technical) have to be controlled more than ours engineers are doing?
Ps. In the last 20 year the auditors (internal, second or tirth part ) have not seen this non conformity
The object of "non conformity" was the Technical Specifications with the parameters used for the set-up of one of ours furnaces (EAF).
The specifications are managed by furnace managers that usually edit the specifications in a sql database ( they don't use papers).
After that from sql sever (liv III) the parameters are sended for every set- up (one specification for every kind of steel) to automation of the furnace (LIV II).
(if anybody is interested on here there is an exercitation with use of some of this specifications: http ://www .steeluniversity. org/content/html/eng/eaf-sim.asp - DEAD (404) LINK DECOUPLED)
The database takes note of the name of the manager that has changed the specifications but not of the scope of the changes, and they don’t use have registrations of obsolete specifications because in the last 20 years the managers haven’t had the necessity to have this kind of registrations.
Anyway the auditor said that isn’t easy understand:
who is tath has approved the last edition of the specifications,
the identifications of every specifications (that are called with the name of the steel),
the traceability of modifications.
Who is on the right side, the Auditor or the managers?
This kind of documents (technical) have to be controlled more than ours engineers are doing?
Ps. In the last 20 year the auditors (internal, second or tirth part ) have not seen this non conformity
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