Is a Kaizen Event really Kaizen?

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Coury Ferguson

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Bill Pflanz said:
Through the ASQ Discussion board, Coury Ferguson invited Akio to participate in this discussion on the Cove but he declined. He is aware of the Cove and has read threads from it in the past. Since I have been fortunate to have personal communications from him, I know that he is very busy helping others to understand quality including volunteering his time on many discussion boads, publications and other communications. There is a limit to what can be done by one person without making too much work and Akio has decided he did not want to start looking at another board.

My interpretation of Akio's thoughts on the various Lean buzz words is that they have become fad words that have been misattributed and misused by Lean proponents. Kaizen happens to be one Lean concept he is very outspoken on and he does not like. There are many lean methods that he does like even if he dislikes the associated Japanese term used for it. With decades of experience and knowledge, he learned the same methods through books written in the 1950's by Americans including the military and those teaching operational research. In his opinion, they are not new and have sometimes become corrupted in their use in Japan. There is something to be said for going back to the original sources and understanding the theory behind the methods. It is harder to do than just taking the latest course that might be taught by a hack but the effort has value. Although it is possible for the older theories and methods to be improved over time, it is also possible that all that has been added is just junk methods and terminology.

Peronally, I am glad that I got to know Akio. He may be the closest thing I have found to the masters like Juran, Deming and others from the quality past.

Bill Pflanz


Well said Bill.

I just read some examples he provided on the ASQ Board regarding Kaizen, and I think everyone that might be interested in seeing Akio's writings on the Board should do so. Just in case some of the Covers don't have the link, here it is:

https://www.asq.org/discussionBoards/index.jspa

This URL is for the Public Discussion Board. There is a more in depth Discussion Board available to ASQ Members only. Since I am an inactive member, I am unable to review those discussions.

You will be surprised how much information is also there besides here in the Cove.
 
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Wes Bucey

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Akio - another guru?

Like Bill, I have a lot of personal correspondence with Akio. An interesting man even older than I, Akio is interested in baseball, judo, fencing, as well as EVERYTHING to do with Quality.

If Akio would take the time away from his other pursuits to publish, he probably could find a place among the Pantheon of Quality gurus like Deming, Crosby, Juran. Alas, reality is such that only published authors get the recognition of guru status and postings in Discussion Forums don't seem to count.

Akio and I have both crusaded against self-proclaimed experts who pick up a few buzzwords and try to bluff their way though life without a real clue to the Body of Knowledge that underlies those buzz words. Our worry has constantly been that these fools are the ones who give the entire Quality industry a bad reputation.

When I use a term like "muda" - it is really in the same sense used in Japan and which the French folks term "merde" - both terms meaning the end result of the digestive and excretory process and which Americans term "s***"!

The plain fact is that using foreign terms acts to exclude the non-initiated from the Quality process instead of including them. Our constant quest as Quality professionals should be complete clarity for everyone about what we mean and what we intend. In that respect (or lack of respect), perhaps we should use s*** to describe what we really mean!
 

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Re: Akio - another guru?

Wes Bucey said:
Like Bill, I have a lot of personal correspondence with Akio. An interesting man even older than I, Akio is interested in baseball, judo, fencing, as well as EVERYTHING to do with Quality.

If Akio would take the time away from his other pursuits to publish, he probably could find a place among the Pantheon of Quality gurus like Deming, Crosby, Juran. Alas, reality is such that only published authors get the recognition of guru status and postings in Discussion Forums don't seem to count.

Akio and I have both crusaded against self-proclaimed experts who pick up a few buzzwords and try to bluff their way though life without a real clue to the Body of Knowledge that underlies those buzz words. Our worry has constantly been that these fools are the ones who give the entire Quality industry a bad reputation.

When I use a term like "muda" - it is really in the same sense used in Japan and which the French folks term "merde" - both terms meaning the end result of the digestive and excretory process and which Americans term "s***"!

The plain fact is that using foreign terms acts to exclude the non-initiated from the Quality process instead of including them. Our constant quest as Quality professionals should be complete clarity for everyone about what we mean and what we intend. In that respect (or lack of respect), perhaps we should use s*** to describe what we really mean!


Wes,

You and Akio will make the Gurus of Quality List before the end of my life time.

I agree as Quality Professionals we should be looking at clarity verses "muda or merde" and decipher the real true meanings of these buzz words. And always ask the What if or the Whys.
 
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asutherland

duecesevenOS said:
This confuses me a little.

All of these reference books describe kaizen as a continuous improvement or improvement toward perfection. Then they immediately start talking about a 4 day event that will solve all of your problems. How is that continuous? I don't doubt that a kaizen event is useful. I think that any time you take a good long look at all the wastes in your process it will have good results. This doesn't seem to be the idea behind kaizen however? There is a lot of information out there about these seemingly straight forward kaizen events. Finding test cases about implementing long term kaizen where operators are continually improving their own process is almost impossible to find?

Is the thinking that the kaizen event will lead to a kaizen friendly environment?

duece


According to Rubrich (my hero), " The definition of kaizen has grown to mean something different in American manuacturing. Most American companies do not recognize the potential of employee empowerment. Amearican culture, in general, struggles with techniques that are gradual and produce small improvements. . . even if these small improvements occur daily! Americans are innovators and that means "giant steps." Home runs, not singles!

What can a Kaizen Event Accomplish? . . . A kaizen event will effect a rapid improvement in the performance of a specific project process, production process, office process, or manufacturing cell.

What a Kaizen Event will not accomplish . . . Long term change at the event work site. If events are used as the sole improvement strategy, backsliding will occur as soon as the event is over. Someone from the event team or the company's kaizen facilitator must monitor the work site on a daily basis and must continue to coach and counsel the team on the improvements and why they are necessary."
 

Randy

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Re: Akio - another guru?

Wes Bucey said:
In that respect (or lack of respect), perhaps we should use s*** to describe what we really mean!

I think I have on many occasions:lol:
 
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asutherland

Re: Akio - another guru?

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