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Sam
Has anyone taken this training course yet?
I recently completed the training in July, through AIAG,and just received the results. I failed the exam; the written and oral exam.
I'll share my experience with everyone because this training was not anything like the QS9000 or the ISO14001 auditor training. I knew I was in trouble the first when the instructor said " If you don't know the TS specification then you probably won't pass the test".
And please don't take this as "sour grapes". I may be the only one that failed this session, but I can at least get it out of my system.
There are three parts to the exam; performance, oral, and written,
1- The performance portion consists of discussions of various types of inputs and outputs to a process, filling out forms, turtle, octopus. Also included were two case studies that comprised a simulation audit.
2- There was a brief period in which the major differences between QS and TS were discussed.
Observation: Although there were several questions asked during these exercises, there was never any critique offered by the instructors.
2- The oral exam consists of the selection of a process scenario. You are given 35 min to review the scenario, determine the inputs, activities, outputs, facts to be verified during the audit and necessary information for the audit. Then you get to make a private presentation in front of the two instructors. No critique after.
Observation:
1- We had a 30 min. discussion about this method on the 3rd day. We did not role play this method at any time.
2- This approach was different then what we encountered during the course.
3- The written exam was 25 questions, multiple choice to be completed in 30 mminutes.
Observation:
1- Unlike QS9000 and ISO14001, there was no overview of this test.
2- Above all, know the TS specification before signing up for the course.
Did I learn anything? I learned what a turtle diagram is, I know what an octopus diagram is. I know how to fill out a process audit worksheet.
For what it's worth, I at least i got it out.
I recently completed the training in July, through AIAG,and just received the results. I failed the exam; the written and oral exam.
I'll share my experience with everyone because this training was not anything like the QS9000 or the ISO14001 auditor training. I knew I was in trouble the first when the instructor said " If you don't know the TS specification then you probably won't pass the test".
And please don't take this as "sour grapes". I may be the only one that failed this session, but I can at least get it out of my system.
There are three parts to the exam; performance, oral, and written,
1- The performance portion consists of discussions of various types of inputs and outputs to a process, filling out forms, turtle, octopus. Also included were two case studies that comprised a simulation audit.
2- There was a brief period in which the major differences between QS and TS were discussed.
Observation: Although there were several questions asked during these exercises, there was never any critique offered by the instructors.
2- The oral exam consists of the selection of a process scenario. You are given 35 min to review the scenario, determine the inputs, activities, outputs, facts to be verified during the audit and necessary information for the audit. Then you get to make a private presentation in front of the two instructors. No critique after.
Observation:
1- We had a 30 min. discussion about this method on the 3rd day. We did not role play this method at any time.
2- This approach was different then what we encountered during the course.
3- The written exam was 25 questions, multiple choice to be completed in 30 mminutes.
Observation:
1- Unlike QS9000 and ISO14001, there was no overview of this test.
2- Above all, know the TS specification before signing up for the course.
Did I learn anything? I learned what a turtle diagram is, I know what an octopus diagram is. I know how to fill out a process audit worksheet.
For what it's worth, I at least i got it out.