Good discussion as usual.
My view is consistently that while tools tend to morph over time, the degree of their successful use has always been in variation at any given point in the tools' progress. Does that make sense? A sling shot can be an effective hunting tool or not, depending on my skill, discipline, determination and perhaps some other factors. Same goes with the most advanced hunting tools. The user is charged with doing a good job with it or fouling it up.
My understanding of 6S is that it sought to take out some of that variation by improving the structure, the discipline of using the same sort of tools that already existed. It sought to bring better repeatability, which I can agree seems appropriate to seek. While winning its converts it somehow turned into a sort of religion (no disrespect intended) to hold in magnificent ideal.
All in all the success still relies on the user, his/her environment, resources etc. I've seen few organizations that can pull off a 6S effort satisfactorily, and no one who could take the tool box any old where and make it work, because organizations vary so--even departments within them can vary enormously.
This is why I've maintained a suspicious distance between myself and the discipline, and trained a critical eye on the idea that any person with a Master BB certificate can, in fact, go into ABC Corp and get "it" done.
This is also why my signature line is Stealth Quality. In my view, we have the math down and the little charts nailed; Human Performance Management is the last frontier.
My view is consistently that while tools tend to morph over time, the degree of their successful use has always been in variation at any given point in the tools' progress. Does that make sense? A sling shot can be an effective hunting tool or not, depending on my skill, discipline, determination and perhaps some other factors. Same goes with the most advanced hunting tools. The user is charged with doing a good job with it or fouling it up.
My understanding of 6S is that it sought to take out some of that variation by improving the structure, the discipline of using the same sort of tools that already existed. It sought to bring better repeatability, which I can agree seems appropriate to seek. While winning its converts it somehow turned into a sort of religion (no disrespect intended) to hold in magnificent ideal.
All in all the success still relies on the user, his/her environment, resources etc. I've seen few organizations that can pull off a 6S effort satisfactorily, and no one who could take the tool box any old where and make it work, because organizations vary so--even departments within them can vary enormously.
This is why I've maintained a suspicious distance between myself and the discipline, and trained a critical eye on the idea that any person with a Master BB certificate can, in fact, go into ABC Corp and get "it" done.
This is also why my signature line is Stealth Quality. In my view, we have the math down and the little charts nailed; Human Performance Management is the last frontier.