Ford has issued a new CSR dated August 2008 and CQI 9 / W-HTX checklist

[Kales Veggie]

Ford published (through a letter by D. Velliky) a new version of the CSR (dated August 2008) and a clarification with checklist on CQI 9 and W-HTX relationship.

The CSR and checklist (includes data tables for brazing/sintering and vacuum carburizing) are only available through the Ford supplier portal at this time. It has not been published on the IAOB / IATF website at this time (Sept 3rd, 2008 14:00EDT).

A copy of the letter and the check list are attached.

 

[Coury Ferguson]

Re: Ford issued new CSR and CQI 9 / W-HTX checklist

Ford published (through a letter by D. Velliky) a new version of the CSR (dated August 2008) and a clarification with checklist on CQI 9 and W-HTX relationship.

The CSR and checklist (includes data tables for brazing/sintering and vacuum carburizing) are only available through the Ford supplier portal at this time. It has not been published on the IAOB / IATF website at this time (Sept 3rd, 2008 14:00EDT).

A copy of the letter and the check list are attached.

Thanks Kales for this information.

 

[howste]

Re: Ford issued new CSR and CQI 9 / W-HTX checklist

Thanks for the information. This isn't available at the IATF site yet.

 

[valter.souza]

Re: Ford issued new CSR and CQI 9 / W-HTX checklist

Thanks for the information.

 

[Sidney Vianna]

Re: Ford issued new CSR and CQI 9 / W-HTX checklist

Ford has a new CSR document:

Ford Motor Company Customer Specifics for ISO/TS 16949 Posted 09/16/2009

 

[Jim Wynne]

Re: Ford issued new CSR and CQI 9 / W-HTX checklist

Ford has a new CSR document:

Ford Motor Company Customer Specifics for ISO/TS 16949 Posted 09/16/2009

[indignation]
My copy of ISO/TS 16949:2002 is 43 pages long (including foreword, introduction, etc.). This is approximately twice as long as ISO 9001:2008, and the extra length is intended to supplement 9001 with automotive requirements. But it doesn't supplement enough, and (for Ford) an additional 27 pages is required to supplement the supplement.

Of course, ISO 9001 is still touted as being applicable to any sort of business (and it is, sort of) but it wasn't long before it started having babies in the form of QS 9000, TL9000, AS9xxx, and god knows what else. The original idea of simplification and homogenization of disparate standards not only didn't work, it resulted in more confusion. Nowadays if you're a supplier to several automotive OEMs, you still have a labyrinth of standards and requirements to negotiate and it's a maze that might well be more anfractuous than what was there before all of this started.

When will they learn? [/indignation]

 

[Sidney Vianna]

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[indignation]When will they learn? [/indignation]

Looking at the bright side, the more they make explicit requirements, the less anyone has to "interpret it".

 

[Marc]

Re: Ford issued new CSR and CQI 9 / W-HTX checklist

[indignation]<snip>When will they learn? [/indignation]

The question is, when will you learn that they will not 'learn'? When I started this site is was because of this very aspect of the proliferation of 'standards' and customer requirements.

 

[Stijloor]

Re: Ford issued new CSR and CQI 9 / W-HTX checklist

Looking at the bright side, the more they make explicit requirements, the less anyone has to "interpret it".

Could the efforts by TC176 to make the ISO 9001 Standard as generic as possible have contributed to the proliferation of industry-specific standards? (Including the explosion of customer-specific requirements?)

Stijloor.

 

[Marc]

Re: Ford issued new CSR and CQI 9 / W-HTX checklist

Ford has a new CSR document:

Ford Motor Company Customer Specifics for ISO/TS 16949 Posted 09/16/2009

Since this thread is a year old, I have copied this post to a new thread. Please discuss any changes or such in the new thread: Ford has issued a new CSR - Posted 09/16/2009