Interesting Discussion Was this the fastest ever stage 2 ISO9001:2015 audit?

[EMP]

Under 2 hours! and no operational audits.

The stage 1 with 10+ major NCs (and a different auditor)

 

[AndyN]

Is this an IAF member accredited CB? (UKAS or similar)

 

[AndyN]

If, by chance it is, something's clearly wrong! The stage 1 isn't supposed to be for reporting non-conformities, only identify compliance issues which could BECOME a non-conformity at the stage 2. A stage 2 which is less than a day doesn't comply with the IAF MD-5 document. I'd anticipate the CB isn't UKAS (or similar) accredited.

 

[EMP]

Is this an IAF member accredited CB? (UKAS or similar)

Yes! UKAS, was rather amazed...

 

[AndyN]

Are you intending to take action since this appears to be a corruption of the certification process?

 

[EMP]

Am waiting for the report and cert first

 

[AndyN]

The certificate will be worthless...

 

[EMP]

Well yes.. and no, it would be a UKAS CB cert - it was the most bizarre meeting ever.

 

[Kronos147]

Under 2 hours! and no operational audits.

The stage 1 with 10+ major NCs (and a different auditor)

2 things here.

1) There are no major findings in a stage 1. It's a readiness review. Are you ready or can you be ready?
2) Minimum duration per IAF MD5 is 8 hours. Like Andy said, your certificate is worthless. I would say invalid.

Based on your statement, UKAS should come into your house and take the cert off the wall, IMO.

 

[EMP]

We (as consultants called in to sort out the mess) were not in attendance at stage 1..just checked the report - it stated 10+ major NCs...

Looking at the whole company it should be considerably than 1 day... based on staff and number of offices..