Hi All,
I have a question and I would really appreciate your input since I have searched for similar threads and did not find an exact answer, but slightly similar – see thread 50963 (the system does not allow me to post links
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Well, first, the context:
- - Till two years ago we’ve been a small company with Headquarter in US and several offices around the world,
- - We have had since company inception - 20 years ago - a certain quality culture, which evolved to the adoption of ISO 9001 eight years ago,
- - This year we have been recertified ISO 9001:2008 with a world renown CB for a new cycle of 3 years,
- - Two years ago we have been acquired by a company with HQ and most of offices in other part of the world,
- - They too have adopted ISO 9001:9008 and have an ISO history of about 15 years,
- - They are certified with another world wide CB player,
- - Now , the corporate management wants to have a common QMS and are willing to change existing QMS to fit both systems, but want to keep their original Quality Manual and System Procedures with minimal changes.
- - Need to mention that our market and clients are different than corporate ones, the business mechanism is different, QMS’s are different, procedures are different, etc., etc.
- - Our QMS is a home grown, semi automatic, HTML based system and they have a manual system, Excel based.
Although we agreed to merge the systems, when it comes to details it is quite difficult to reconcile both of them.
Our merging philosophy was “Plug and Play”, meaning we would keep our system as it is (with minor changes) and add a statement in both Quality Manuals that our QMS will comply with corporate QMS, but customized (tailored) for our needs.
I’m afraid that this is not realistic and want to hear from you some thoughts.
Please advise if it is possible to have:
- - 2 Quality Manuals, a corporate one and a local one,
- - Different system procedures or at least different procedures for Control of Documents and Records (CDR).
If above are not advisable/possible, as a second thought, we think to add a statement in the corporate Quality Manual and corporate CDR that for our business are some customized forms and procedures. Therefore we will keep our QMS almost intact, the QMS lifecycle will follow the same flow, but with additional review and approval steps.
Please let me know what you think.
I have a question and I would really appreciate your input since I have searched for similar threads and did not find an exact answer, but slightly similar – see thread 50963 (the system does not allow me to post links
)Well, first, the context:
- - Till two years ago we’ve been a small company with Headquarter in US and several offices around the world,
- - We have had since company inception - 20 years ago - a certain quality culture, which evolved to the adoption of ISO 9001 eight years ago,
- - This year we have been recertified ISO 9001:2008 with a world renown CB for a new cycle of 3 years,
- - Two years ago we have been acquired by a company with HQ and most of offices in other part of the world,
- - They too have adopted ISO 9001:9008 and have an ISO history of about 15 years,
- - They are certified with another world wide CB player,
- - Now , the corporate management wants to have a common QMS and are willing to change existing QMS to fit both systems, but want to keep their original Quality Manual and System Procedures with minimal changes.
- - Need to mention that our market and clients are different than corporate ones, the business mechanism is different, QMS’s are different, procedures are different, etc., etc.
- - Our QMS is a home grown, semi automatic, HTML based system and they have a manual system, Excel based.
Although we agreed to merge the systems, when it comes to details it is quite difficult to reconcile both of them.
Our merging philosophy was “Plug and Play”, meaning we would keep our system as it is (with minor changes) and add a statement in both Quality Manuals that our QMS will comply with corporate QMS, but customized (tailored) for our needs.
I’m afraid that this is not realistic and want to hear from you some thoughts.
Please advise if it is possible to have:
- - 2 Quality Manuals, a corporate one and a local one,
- - Different system procedures or at least different procedures for Control of Documents and Records (CDR).
If above are not advisable/possible, as a second thought, we think to add a statement in the corporate Quality Manual and corporate CDR that for our business are some customized forms and procedures. Therefore we will keep our QMS almost intact, the QMS lifecycle will follow the same flow, but with additional review and approval steps.
Please let me know what you think.
