G
gjkoenig
We are a metal stamping company and are new to TS16949, recently passing our Stage 2, having upgraded from ISO 9001:2008. We have 5 minor NCs from the Stage 2, but one is giving me a lot of trouble. A finding was made during a review of an automotive customer's PPAP that the raw metal material cert we received from material bought from an ISO 9001 supplier was not supplemented with outside testing from a TS or ISO 17025 certified lab. We are in the process of finding a certified lab that can do both chemical and mechanical analysis of the raw metal in order to close the corrective action for this NC. Some labs do chemical but not material analysis (tensile, conductivity, hardness, roughness) vice versa.
Am I correct in assuming that all data on the ISO supplier's cert has to be 3rd party verified/tested by the certified TS or ISO 17025 lab?
My main question is, do we have to have all subsequent shipments of production material tested or is the TS requirement satisfied for material bought in the pre-production stage of a PPAP only? This answer is critical as the cost of using a non-TS/ISO 17025 supplier will be prohibitive considering the added cost of 3rd party testing. Using a TS supplier is not always an option given the limited supplier base of certain materials and pricing considerations.
Am I correct in assuming that all data on the ISO supplier's cert has to be 3rd party verified/tested by the certified TS or ISO 17025 lab?
My main question is, do we have to have all subsequent shipments of production material tested or is the TS requirement satisfied for material bought in the pre-production stage of a PPAP only? This answer is critical as the cost of using a non-TS/ISO 17025 supplier will be prohibitive considering the added cost of 3rd party testing. Using a TS supplier is not always an option given the limited supplier base of certain materials and pricing considerations.